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    Default Suebi aggression.

    Is it possible to perhaps reduce the aggressiveness of the Suebi? By turn 12 for example they've conquered their way down to Rome, and similar scenarios play out in pretty much every campaign. I as the player pretty much have to liberate half of Europe/play police to keep the Suebi from conquering everything.
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    Default Re: Suebi aggression.

    In my playthroughs with DIE 9.x Suebi always conquers most of europe in the very early game, then they usually get destoryed when other factions beome powerful. In my last try as Rome, they acctually destoryed me! Came at me at around round 40 with a stack of archers and sword masters (btw, are they supposed to have sword masters that early?)

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    Default Re: Suebi aggression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashas View Post
    In my playthroughs with DIE 9.x Suebi always conquers most of europe in the very early game, then they usually get destoryed when other factions beome powerful. In my last try as Rome, they acctually destoryed me! Came at me at around round 40 with a stack of archers and sword masters (btw, are they supposed to have sword masters that early?)
    Lugii is pretty much the same. The pattern that I've noticed is that very early on they manage to field quite a decent amount of full stacks with good quality troops that doesn't cost much, something most of the AI factions can't counter until it's too late. I've tried helping the AI out(mostly to create a buffer between me and the Suebi/Lugii alliance) but they just can't match them.
    August Strindberg: "There's a view, current at the moment even among quite sensible people, that women, that secondary form of humanity (second to men, the lords and shapers of human civilisation) should in some way become equal with men, or could so be; this is leading to a struggle which is both bizarre and doomed. It's bizarre because a secondary form, by the laws of science, is always going to be a secondary form. Imagine two people, A (a man) and B (a woman). They start to run a race from the same point, C. A (the man) has a speed of, let's say, 100; B (the woman) has a speed of 60. Now, the question is 'Can B ever overtake A?" and the answer is 'Never!'. Whatever training, encouragement or self-denial is applied, the proposition is as impossible as that two parallel lines should ever meet."


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    Default Re: Suebi aggression.

    Same issue in my last three games as Rome. The Suebi took Gaul, the Balkens and got into Greece by turn 50 to 60.

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    they got powerful early on but then lost everything for unknown reasons... in my campaign the two dominant faction in gaul are/were the iceni and the arverni.

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