Possible fix for CTDs while loading for battle?

**gsthoed** · July 28, 2014, 09:57 AM

I noticed this in mod workshop, thread "Crashes and how to fix them" ( http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ow-to-fix-them ):

Battle crash, any unit
Q: The mod crashes while loading for battle regardless of what units or factions will be fighting in the battle.

A: Most likely there are multiple spaces in the 'data\unit_models\battle_models.modeldb' file when there should only be one or two spaces (this won't cause the mod to crash when loading, unlike a number or spelling error). Carefully checking the battle_models.modeldb file or the reverting to a backup is the only way to fix this.

Then I checked this file for Stainless Steel and I counted over 114 cases of at least three sequencial spaces. I checked the equivalent file of vanilla m2tw and I found none.
So I wonder: if Neymar had played in Brazil-Germany, could brazil_faction stand any chance?

EDIT: In that file I also notice this:

Code:

22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 1197 0 0 
10 mount_pony 
1.12 0 0 3 0 0 
52 unit_models/Mounts/Medium_Horse/mount_pony_lod0.mesh 121 
52 unit_models/Mounts/Medium_Horse/mount_pony_lod1.mesh 1225 
52 unit_models/Mounts/Medium_Horse/mount_pony_lod2.mesh 10000 
0 0 33 0 0

Isn't 31 the hardcoded limit for factions? Also, I see along with the other factions there are "normans" and "ireland". Is it intended?

**Melooo182** · July 28, 2014, 12:10 PM

Normans and Ireland entries are probably left overs from previous SS versions
there also loads of leftover textures files for Ireland as well.

I don't know if the number of texture variants in the BMMDB has any effect, was it 31+slave? dunno but there is also the merc texture variants which would add an additional entry aside the faction ones.

BTW is this a really documented problem?, cause as far as I know the original BMMDB is a mumbojumbo of wall of text with no spaces anywhere...but it can be "formatted" ie made human readable by adding spaces and line-breaks

If it is, which would be the proper format? when/where there should be 1 space or 2?

**gsthoed** · July 28, 2014, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Melooo182

Normans and Ireland entries are probably left overs from previous SS versions

And knights_templar too.

Originally Posted by Melooo182

I don't know if the number of texture variants in the BMMDB has any effect, was it 31+slave? dunno but there is also the merc texture variants which would add an additional entry aside the faction ones.

I have no experience with this file; It just happened to note these things while I was searching for something else. Additionally, I cannot reproduce on demand the bug I was referring to in order to test if this approach can actually help. That' s why I didn't post in Bug-Fixes thread; it's just a question for something that might fix a bug and I hope someone more experienced than me can answer

I am sure that the hardcore faction limit for Kingdoms is 31( Including slave/rebel) http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...Hardcoded-List and I thought that this might have something to do with that entry
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...=1#post7125071

Originally Posted by Melooo182

BTW is this a really documented problem?, cause as far as I know the original BMMDB is a mumbojumbo of wall of text with no spaces anywhere...but it can be "formatted" ie made human readable by adding spaces and line-breaks

If it is, which would be the proper format? when/where there should be 1 space or 2?

I 'll edit this post when I re-find a relevant post? tutorial? I had found which was documenting the double space limit for the human-readable edition of the file

**Melooo182** · July 28, 2014, 01:57 PM

well with SciTE could quickly remove all double and triple+ spaces as well as add spaces at every line break that was missing it...ran a custom battle and all good.
i've never had problem before either but well.

I've noticed also that some units have
fs_test_shield 0
16 ...
While others have
fs_test_shield 2
16 ...
And others have no value at all
fs_test_shield
16 ...

No idea what those value do

maybe this can help
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...8#post13987218