ummm what's the update for?

[scdandme]

CAUTON !!! sorry for posting again here but to those that the change name fix does work and have steam....WARNING !!...as far as i can see if you leave your folder renamed and steam does another update then the renamed folder will be totally reverted back to the original campaign !!!....i am thinking you would have to leave auto updates off for M2TW and if steam demands another update some day, rename your mod folder again of your current playthrough and then let steam update then rename it back !!!

just a thought..see my post above for more info please...

[irishron]

I have posted in here. http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...ix-Mod-Support

[scdandme]

hey irishron, please read my last post...is this not true ???

[gangreenkhan]

For the record I had auto updates off and it is now magically turned on

[scdandme]

For the record I had auto updates off and it is now magically turned on

then if i am correct, you have to rename your folder everytime and i think auto updates just won't happen if you are currently playing games with steam but not sure....what a pain !!! I just renamed mine just in case because this fix did work for me...

[irishron]

hey irishron, please read my last post...is this not true ???

It could be. I still have discs working.

For the record I had auto updates off and it is now magically turned on

Steam disabled the option when Shogun2 was released and everybody got updated at once. Rome2 dunno.

then if i am correct, you have to rename your folder everytime and i think auto updates just won't happen if you are currently playing games with steam but not sure....what a pain !!! I just renamed mine just in case because this fix did work for me...

The old trick before some wise ones figured out a way to beat it at its own game. It look like we need another.

[Crazything777]

So basically if we had say 5+ mods we are now forced to using only 4 at a time and have to rename them to americas, crusade etc. if we want to use them?
Wonderful.

[scdandme]

Everyone please....maybe if you have steam you should rename your folders NOW...ASAP !!!

[irishron]

but again the problem is if you leave them renamed and there is another update, then they are probably all going to be "steam rolled" !!!

If you have a spare drive or an external, backup. I'm using an old drive out of a computer that died five years ago for such things.

[scdandme]

If you have a spare drive or an external, backup. I'm using an old drive out of a computer that died five years ago for such things.

renaming should work without using drive space but you are correct sir...a backup is always the best way...always...thanks irishron

[SeaNNyT]

Renaming the folders doesn't seem to be good enough. Stainless Steel crashes when attempting to play custom battles. It's consistent too. It will crash just when you go to the unit selection for each team screen.

[gangreenkhan]

imma look on amazon for disk

[scdandme]

i have seen on these forums that playing custom battles causes crashes not necessarily related to this update problem we are seeing...just saying...

[Emperor Hantscher]

I already loaded my mods the "old way" of renaming the folder because for some reason the launcher never worked for me. The really weird thing is, when I open my mods folder teutonic still has all my TATW files and such, but the Vanilla teutonic campaign opens when i run the game WTF???

Ater some playing around, any mods i had in the vanilla mods teutonic, crusade etc. are now lost. any of my other mods are fine if I rename them and they still play. But my TATW mod that was named teutonic is completly corrupted and I will need to reinstall. Not the end of the world but still..........

WHY THE HELL AFTER SO MANY YEARS DO THEY DO THIS WITH NO WARNING OR REGARD FOR PEOPLE WHO STILL PLAY THIS GAME SOLEY BECASUE OF MODS(95%??)???? NEVER WILL I EVER BUY ANOTHER CA GAME EVER, ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!

[scdandme]

I already loade my mods the "old way" of renaming the folder becasue for some reason the launcher never worked for me. The really weird thing is, when I open my mods folder teutonic still has all my TATW files and such, but the Vanilla teutonic campaign opens when i run the game WTF???

did you have your folder renamed already when this update took place ?...if you did, then steam replaced the "wrong" files for the actual teutonic files from CA, and so now you have a big mess of TATW and teutonic files together...another post here said they got that far then crashed when selecting units...could be the same for you...that is what i am saying here....i hope everyone is reading this thread completely and understands the dangers of leaving your mods not backed up or leaving folders renamed to original titles (americas, crusades, etc.) Because if steam does another update and the folder is "renamed" like you said, then BOOM ! your modded game is gone most likely... AND like emperor said before, the multiplayer seems to be really laggy and there is a sound bug, SO there probably is going to be another update !!!

[scdandme]

I already loaded my mods the "old way" of renaming the folder because for some reason the launcher never worked for me. The really weird thing is, when I open my mods folder teutonic still has all my TATW files and such, but the Vanilla teutonic campaign opens when i run the game WTF???

Ater some playing around, any mods i had in the vanilla mods teutonic, crusade etc. are now lost. any of my other mods are fine if I rename them and they still play. But my TATW mod that was named teutonic is completly corrupted and I will need to reinstall. Not the end of the world but still..........

WHY THE HELL AFTER SO MANY YEARS DO THEY DO THIS WITH NO WARNING OR REGARD FOR PEOPLE WHO STILL PLAY THIS GAME SOLEY BECASUE OF MODS(95%??)???? NEVER WILL I EVER BUY ANOTHER CA GAME EVER, ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!

Man, that really stinks...so sorry for that for you..but it does sound like exactly what I thought....steam left things alone if they are "different" than original content...yes they should warn us so we can prepare our modded games but I guess it is a legal issue from the developers....

[gangreenkhan]

Wish I'd of known this three weeks ago before I rebought the game on steam. Now I'm $45 dollars into a $20 game just great

[RubiconDecision]

Folks,
It was NEVER a good idea to rename a campaign mod folder from one of the original four (like americans or teutonic) in order to make a mod work. That was always just a quick fix. The proper way to do it was to use the launcher replacement that made the regedit entries or to learn how to edit the registry. Now it's coming back to haunt you.

You can have an unlimited number of mods if you properly install MTW2 Kingdoms and go around it, not renaming folders. At least that's how it used to be.

The Steam update has always been a mixed bag. I've personally seen it corrupt files, and it's a real pain in the ass when you're modding and done work for a month and you lose everything. Now's a good time for any modder to save their work and NOT do the update until we know what's what. Personally I'm not even booting into MTW2 Steam until things get settled down from this debacle. RTW1 works just fine and is NOT a Steam product on my computer...and for good reason.

For years folks have had Steam related modding issues, all of which several of us worked on solving tirelessly, answering questions patiently, and gritting our teeth for the next one. Honestly, this is why the regular versions of CA's games are much better EXCEPT it's certainly true that DVDs can go bad by being scratched. I've had this happen myself.

Follow irishron's updates and anyone else who's working on it. Give him rep or anyone who finds solutions. Don't ask the same question only slightly worded differently. Hopefully this will get worked out by Steam, CA, and some community members in the interim.

Steam has a very bad habit of downloading but then if you do a verify, you'll see errors. Make sure you understand how to check this too. Sometimes it takes numerous times to get it completely updated without errors. Because some people used the folder rename shortcut, it's possible you've lost your savegames, will almost certainly have to reinstall mods, and so you can bellyache about it, but what's to be done? happens and rolls downhill.

[scdandme]

Folks,
It was NEVER a good idea to rename a campaign mod folder from one of the original four (like americans or teutonic) in order to make a mod work. That was always just a quick fix. The proper way to do it was to use the launcher replacement that made the regedit entries or to learn how to edit the registry. Now it's coming back to haunt you.

You can have an unlimited number of mods if you properly install MTW2 Kingdoms and go around it, not renaming folders. At least that's how it used to be.



The Steam update has always been a mixed bag. I've personally seen it corrupt files, and it's a real pain in the ass when you're modding and done work for a month and you lose everything. Now's a good time for any modder to save their work and NOT do the update until we know what's what. Personally I'm not even booting into MTW2 Steam until things get settled down from this debacle. RTW1 works just fine and is NOT a Steam product on my computer...and for good reason.

For years folks have had Steam related modding issues, all of which several of us worked on solving tirelessly, answering questions patiently, and gritting our teeth for the next one. Honestly, this is why the regular versions of CA's games are much better EXCEPT it's certainly true that DVDs can go bad by being scratched. I've had this happen myself.

Follow irishron's updates and anyone else who's working on it. Give him rep or anyone who finds solutions. Don't ask the same question only slightly worded differently. Hopefully this will get worked out by Steam, CA, and some community members in the interim.

Steam has a very bad habit of downloading but then if you do a verify, you'll see errors. Make sure you understand how to check this too. Sometimes it takes numerous times to get it completely updated without errors. Because some people used the folder rename shortcut, it's possible you've lost your savegames, will almost certainly have to reinstall mods, and so you can bellyache about it, but what's to be done? happens and rolls downhill.

Finally some words of Wisdom !!...Now I can sleep...........

[RubiconDecision]

Let me explain why you never ever want to rename the original folders.

When a mod installation program operates, it copies files from certain places based upon registry entries on your computer. It's counting on those folders being what they're supposed to be. If you renamed the teutonic folder so that you could play Third Age, then any mod that copies files from the teutonic folder will screw up because it'll copy Third Age files into the new mod installation. It's why you keep the original four additional campaigns pristine. If you do this, and use a launcher replacement, then it makes registry edits so that the unofficial mods like Third Age have their own folder. Then there's no chance of mixing up files across folders. This is how you're supposed to do it prior to the update.

Now with the confusion, we're not entirely sure if the TWCenter launcher replacement works correctly. It's honestly not a great time to experiment. You MIGHT be able to copy your save games over somewhere else, and then try to use them after doing all of the reinstallations, and they MIGHT work. Don't hold your breath though.

The only tiny light is all of this pitch blackness is that EB2 is supposed to be launched at the end of August, so thankfully this damn update didn't get done then because it would have created a real nightmare to figure out CTDs!