Is it fair to compare modded Rome 1 to unmodded Rome 2?

[eXistenZ]

Wait was there city veiw in med 2?

5 then if you count FotS as seperate.

A fun feature yes, but i doubt it has been used for more than 10minutes/player. Same for the agent videos. Fun the first and second time yo usee them, after that you skip them to save time

[Gigantus]

Wait was there city veiw in med 2?

Kind of: View the settlement

[Huberto]

Not going to read every post in this thread but yes of course it's fair to compare unmodded TWR2 with modded RTW. Those RTW mods have been around and in a state of continuous improvement for years and offered plenty for CA to draw upon to improve its follow up iteration of Rome Total War. Instead, they went in an entirely different direction, which isn't in itself such a bad notion...but the vision...and the execution. My oh my.

[Philadelphos]

The sinews of game design are infinite money!

[Totalheadache]

Am i missing something here but wouldnt u either play a modded Rome1 and a modded Rome2?

As vanilla total wars have always been pretty bland?

[Darios]

I actually really like playing R2 unmodded. Modding just hasn't been the same for me since CA started using Warscape. The kind of things that I would like to see changed/redone in R2 are hardcoded so there's no point....

[baptistus]

Is it fair to compare the graphism/animations/technology of a 10 years old game and a recent game ?..
A lot of players say rome 2 is better than rome 2 because of the graphism and the animations. So ....

[baptistus]

Is it fair to compare the graphism/animations/technologies of a 10 years old game and a recent game ?... mmmh ?
so no "rome 2 have better graphism than rome 1" too, no "rome 2 have better animations than rome 1" too ect... because 'hey man ! it is not fair".

[Dontfearme22]

Is it fair to compare the graphism/animations/technologies of a 10 years old game and a recent game ?... mmmh ?
so no "rome 2 have better graphism than rome 1" too, no "rome 2 have better animations than rome 1" too ect... because 'hey man ! it is not fair".

Funny image, but its perfectly fine in my mind to compare vanilla rome total war and vanilla ​rome total war II, not the modded versions.

[baptistus]

Funny image, but its perfectly fine in my mind to compare vanilla rome total war and vanilla ​rome total war II, not the modded versions.

with the arguments used in this thread, we can say it is not "fair" too. They said it is not fair because rome 1 is a lot more older than rome 2 so rome 1 have more mods/patchs so you can not talk about the mods/patchs in your comaprison. So it is not fair too compare graphisms and animations too because rome 1 is a lot more older than rome 2. It is excatly the same argument.
If we begin to talk about what is fair or not, I think we should talk about EVERY unfair comparisons, even the one used by the fans of rome 2 for example ....

But IMHO, it seems it is more another try to defend a specific game than to really discuss about how to compare two games from two different generations . If we listen some users here, we have to wait for the very last patch of rome 2 before to compare vanilla rome 1 and vanilla rome 2 ... except if you think rome 2 is better than rome 1 , if you think that, you can begin to compare them right now of course .... but if you think rome 1 is better , hey man ! it is not fair, rome 1 have more patchs !

[Anna_Gein]

Is it fair to compare the graphism/animations/technologies of a 10 years old game and a recent game ?... mmmh ?
so no "rome 2 have better graphism than rome 1" too, no "rome 2 have better animations than rome 1" too ect... because 'hey man ! it is not fair".

Indeed. Funny how some people don't have any problems to compare R2 to RTW modded or not as long as the comparison is to R2 advantage.

Totalheaddache made a valid point in that modded or not RTW and R2 belong to the same game category. In fact they both belong to the same specific sub-category of turn-based campaign map with real time battles. So it is perfectly fine to compare the character development in RTW mods with R2 as both work in the same environment.

[Totalheadache]

p.s voted yes you can compare any game to any other game although you have to stipulate your reasons.

e.g i can compare fifa10 to fifa14 etc etc...or even say bf4 to call of duty or dayz to left for dead or dragon age inquisition to demon souls 2...you catch my drift.

so in my book a silly pointless thread op.

/end of

i.e what the hell has fairness got to do with anything they are both games of a similar genre of which i can say what i like about either. as long as it's based on fact and not blown out of my xxxx...?

"but its not fair people dont like the game"

tough luck it is. deal with it!

[PointOfViewGun]

Comparing a modded Rome I to vanilla Rome II is like comparing a re-worked/enhanced 2004 model Volkswagen Golf to a 2013 model Volkswagen Golf.

Looks like a lot of people who voted yes don't get the difference.

[baptistus]

Comparing a modded Rome I to vanilla Rome II is like comparing a re-worked/enhanced 1984 model Volkswagen Golf to a 2013 model Volkswagen Golf.

fixed.
ten years for game industry is like 30 years for the car industry. Athlon 1ghz, 256 Mb ram, geforce 2 mx 200, it was my computer for rome 2.
So it looks a lot more "fair" ....

[Modestus]

Comparing a modded Rome I to vanilla Rome II is like comparing a re-worked/enhanced 2004 model Volkswagen Golf to a 2013 model Volkswagen Golf.

Looks like a lot of people who voted yes don't get the difference.

Oddly enough you just made a comparison that comparing RTW1 with RTW2 is like comparing a 2004 model Volkswagen Golf to a 2013 model Volkswagen Golf.

[PointOfViewGun]

fixed.
ten years for game industry is like 30 years for the car industry. Athlon 1ghz, 256 Mb ram, geforce 2 mx 200, it was my computer for rome 2.
So it looks a lot more "fair" ....

You could put 1884 there and it wouldn't make it fair.
Though you clearly don't have much of an idea on how fast car industry is advancing.

Oddly enough you just made a comparison that comparing RTW1 with RTW2 is like comparing a 2004 model Volkswagen Golf to a 2013 model Volkswagen Golf.

Ummm, no. I did say re-worked/enhanced, did I not? You don't see anyone in the car industry comparing an older version of a car that passed through a car shop with the latest version. Nowhere do you compare a custom modded old version of a product with an unmodded new version.

[Modestus]

Ummm, no. I did say re-worked/enhanced, did I not? You don't see anyone in the car industry comparing an older version of a car that passed through a car shop with the latest version. Nowhere do you compare a custom modded old version of a product with an unmodded new version.

I was suggesting that your comparison of comparing RTW1 to RTW2 is like comparing a 2004 model Volkswagen Golf ( enhanced ) to a 2013 model Volkswagen Golf is in itself a comparison between two types of comparisons.

You just cannot stop people making comparisons even between a PC game and a car so I see no reason to think that its unfair to make a comparison between two games at least you cant drive off in one of them.

[PointOfViewGun]

I was suggesting that your comparison of comparing RTW1 to RTW2 is like comparing a 2004 model Volkswagen Golf ( enhanced ) to a 2013 model Volkswagen Golf is in itself a comparison between two types of comparisons.

You just cannot stop people making comparisons even between a PC game and a car so I see no reason to think that its unfair to make a comparison between two games at least you cant drive off in one of them.

Nobody ever argued for not comparing the two in this thread. The thread is about whether it's fair to compare it or not. You are, however, free to oppose a position nobody made. Good luck.

[High Fist]

a re-worked/enhanced 2004 model Volkswagen Golf

You mean... A golf with a new engine?

[Mortarion]

I don't think it's fair to compare Rome 2 with modded Rome 1, however even Rome 2 compared to vanilla Rome 1. Rome 2 still sucks
Not saying Rome 1 is better, but at some points it is. And i just expected Rome 2 to be better, it's designed so badly alot of the core mechanics don't work or maky any sence.