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    I like how his Irish friend is playing Red Dead Redemption 2.

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    Catching up with this quite late. 4 episodes in now and ing....Athelwold!

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    Killed Ragnar in his sleep.


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    And done. Very good season overall. Really enjoying that this show has massively improved over its course. Will miss Alfred. He was annoying as a king on many occasions but you get to respect him as a King. The transition shown between him and Uthred was excellent.

    Who will be the main antagonist in S4 though? In any case, looking forward to it.
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    Finished season 3 just now. Liked the acting and (most of) the characters, as always.
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    Thankfully they got rid of that Skade woman, I don't like characters who are psychopathic serial killers.

    I haven't read the books yet, so can't comment on that. However while the show is better in many ways than other "history" shows, it does exhibit some of the same flaws. A lot of the costumes and "armour" are leather biker gear (*SJW voice* We need to talk about Uhtred's costume...) and there's an awful lot of indoor torches at some sets. And random background wildlife sounds mixed in, including some American species


    Quote Originally Posted by Ishan View Post
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    Yeah that caught me off guard, too.

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    Just finished watching this. This show has come a long way since it began and this season was IMHO simply outstanding. The whole setting of an ailing King Alfred trying to protect his legacy while the vultures are starting to circle is quite magnificently portrayed, with Uther's story being used much more in service of a grand narrative than being the originally somewhat unlikely centerpiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muizer View Post
    Just finished watching this. This show has come a long way since it began and this season was IMHO simply outstanding. The whole setting of an ailing King Alfred trying to protect his legacy while the vultures are starting to circle is quite magnificently portrayed, with Uther's story being used much more in service of a grand narrative than being the originally somewhat unlikely centerpiece.
    Bro, don't scare me like that! Your post here had me thinking the fourth season already came out without me knowing about it, and that everybody watched it before I did. It is apparently coming out sometime this Spring or something. I haven't seen a definitive release date.

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    @ R_V I though the same thing.

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    and there's an awful lot of indoor torches at some sets

    True but remember what happened when Kubrik got all uber artsy director and shot Berry Lindon with only accurate period lighting. Production time and expense shot up I doubt the producers have the either mindset or stature of Kubrick to demand accuracy in lighting.
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    torches are awful for lighting. seems more like the old "all medieval indoors need torches at all times" clichee. they could really knock that off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannibalExMachina View Post
    torches are awful for lighting. seems more like the old "all medieval indoors need torches at all times" clichee. they could really knock that off.
    Probably just easier to make and keep lit than period lamps or candles. But mentioning how well thay work I seem to recall a rant by Xenophon about how stupid its was guards to carry torches - they night blind themselves and revel their location all for a few feet of light at best.
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    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    Probably just easier to make and keep lit than period lamps or candles. But mentioning how well thay work I seem to recall a rant by Xenophon about how stupid its was guards to carry torches - they night blind themselves and revel their location all for a few feet of light at best.
    good catch, forgot about old man xeno, but yep, exactly.

    but for films/TV, its really just a dumb clichee, like people covered in dirt all the time. torches are bad for camera work, no better than candles or whatevs. at least when kubrik did it, he used historical light sources, and it was indeed hellishly labourious to shoot with them. so, most filmmakers use torches because, uh, dungeons and dragons is the closest most people get to the middle ages, and use artificial light to make stuff actually visible on screen.

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    I'd like to think that at least off-screen candles/rushlights/sunlight should be easy to imitate with modern technology. It's a shame really, because there are some historical movies out there that avoid the clichés we've listed, without being hugely expensive IIRC.


    Quote Originally Posted by HannibalExMachina View Post
    so, most filmmakers use torches because, uh, dungeons and dragons is the closest most people get to the middle ages, and use artificial light to make stuff actually visible on screen.
    Speaking of which, I suspect that D&D, rather than the original sources, is the main inspiration behind the LotR and Hobbit movies...

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    This show has definitely gotten better with every season and I prefer it more now over Vikings. So can't wait for season 4.

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    I'd like to think that at least off-screen candles/rushlights/sunlight should be easy to imitate with modern technology. It's a shame really, because there are some historical movies out there that avoid the clichés we've listed, without being hugely expensive IIRC.
    Its not if fact easy. Even Kubrick had to cheat a little. But he had ridiculously expensive Zeiss cameras that had been designed for NASA and a cinematography crew that had to hand modify them so that could on occasion subtly add a background light without it being obvious when they needed to perfect/fix the natural lighting.

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    Speaking of which, I suspect that D&D, rather than the original sources, is the main inspiration behind the LotR and Hobbit movies...
    Ahh doesn't raise the old argument about JRRT never saying anything about pointy ears.

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    like people covered in dirt all the time
    Yes nobody can ever get the nasty brutish and short thing out of their head. Even when it patently wrong or at best a poor descriptor. The one that always bugs me is how everybody has to were leather vambraces that are really just wrist bands. Movies and TV seem to feel most people in the Ancient/Classical/Medieval world were recovering from a tennis wrist injury.

    I did really like the shield wall battle and glad they did the long shot of not CGI but well people.
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    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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