NEW WAY TO FIX UNKNOWN CTD

[Deftu]

Unbelievably, I found a way to avoid a CTD while screwing around with one of my perma-screwed games. I simply used the console code disable_vnvs and had it set to true. Here's the shocker, IT WORKED!

What you say? I am a fool with a stupid posting record? Don't make me put my white gloves on. DON'T. MAKE. ME.

Anywho, give it a try. The error is somewhere either in the script or in the character_traits department, I am just not sure where.

[Andytheplatypus]

So what is vnvs?

[k/t]

What did you have set to "true"?

Didn't the log tell you where the error was?

[Deftu]

What did you have set to "true"?

Didn't the log tell you where the error was?

Nope there's nothing in the log. Meaning it could be anything. However, after fooling around with console commands and screwing with stuff in general the unknown error must be somewhere in the traits area. I know for a fact on my current campaign it has something to do with the mongols. My money is on the city/province traits or maybe something to do with horde traits which could mean that the Teutonic Order and maybe the Timurids will cause the same thing. I dunno where to begin exactly so I am just going to mess with anything mongol related.

[Melooo182]

Put on your white gloves!

XD

I guess that command disables traits or trait triggers, since traits text file is "export_vnvs.txt"...makes sense.

[Deftu]

Oh and just type disable_vnvs into your console command.
feedback shall be:
err: disable_vnvs = true (all traits assigners are off)
err: disable vnvs = false (all traits assigners are on)

No clue if this is just traits or ancillaries as well.

How dare you threaten me with the possibility of me equipping my white hand-covers.

[Strengelicher]

What is it with the white gloves. I have a pair in my cupboard to use when handling the curtains (yes, those curtains are delicate). But I haven't used them in like 3 years. The gloves, I mean.

[k/t]

I don't know. Maybe he's a butler.

Why would you need gloves to handle curtains?

If you disable the vnvs to get past a CTD, can you enable it again once you're past the problem point?

[Byg]

Most interesting.

I have searched the forum and scoured the internet, but I can't really find anything useful to help explain this whole white glove issue.

[Andytheplatypus]

I have searched the forum and scoured the internet, but I can't really find anything useful to help explain this whole white glove issue.

I assume its some sort of global organization for white gloved man servants.

[Deftu]

This just in. White gloves are now the second most talked about thing on this forum. The first being how annoying those white potholders are.

k/t, I tried it on a fresh game and it worked just fine. However, the trait that is causing my CTD seems to be perpetuating and is assigned every turn. No idea what trait this is. And I have no really ideas (besides screwing around) on how to fix it.

[Deftu]

White Gloves
"Ever wonder why we always wear these white gloves?"

Common accessory for animated characters, ranging from Walt Disney to Warner Bros. to even Japanese characters.

Simply, the character wears puffy White Gloves, with a wrist band and notable knuckle indentations, even if he doesn't wear much else.

The original reason likely has roots in the black and white era of cartoons, where a mostly dark colored character could hold his hands against his chest and still be visible. Felix the Cat is notable for not wearing White Gloves.

Aside from being an animation tradition, this helps emphasize that the character actually has hands if he is a Talking Animal, and makes it much easier to draw familiar gestures.

It is common in Japanese culture for people who are required to physically touch other people in their work (e.g. policemen, "pushers" on the train lines) to wear white gloves. They are also used as a symbol of purity.
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2007/...ding-hood.html
if you wish to edumacate yourself in white "gloving"