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    I reformatted the unit pages for The Kingdom of Hyrule but with no access to the stats their is no way for me to finishing them.
    Can someone help me?
    Do you like the format style?
    http://hyruletotalwar.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hyrule

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    I'm not the one to ask about unit stats, but I like the page layout. I think the way you've handled the tech trees by putting the image next to the first tier is very elegant, and is an effective way to let people see the massive 3200x2000 file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drazule View Post
    I'm not the one to ask about unit stats, but I like the page layout. I think the way you've handled the tech trees by putting the image next to the first tier is very elegant, and is an effective way to let people see the massive 3200x2000 file.
    And the unit pages?

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    I do like, the stats and the recruiting costs are very helpful, instead of loading the entire game just to get that information.

    That actually gives me the idea of making a file in Excel with all the stats of each faction… that would be helpful to compare each.

    I just think that each stat in a different line might be less confusing but besides that is perfect to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of Osiris View Post
    I do like, the stats and the recruiting costs are very helpful, instead of loading the entire game just to get that information.

    That actually gives me the idea of making a file in Excel with all the stats of each faction… that would be helpful to compare each.

    I just think that each stat in a different line might be less confusing but besides that is perfect to me
    The wiki is funny about formatting. But can I have the stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of Osiris View Post
    I do like, the stats and the recruiting costs are very helpful, instead of loading the entire game just to get that information.

    That actually gives me the idea of making a file in Excel with all the stats of each faction… that would be helpful to compare each.

    I just think that each stat in a different line might be less confusing but besides that is perfect to me
    This better? http://hyruletotalwar.wikia.com/wiki...Recruits#Stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Aroun View Post
    I guess I'll need to make a standardised template for these stats... The current one is still really messy.

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    I actually prefer that way. It would be even better with a double column, like split into two columns with the second one in the middle, but I tried it and I couldn’t do it so I think that’s the best way, but this is just something personal so I’m fine either way.

    As for the stats I’m not sure what you are asking, of course you can get them when you are in the battle, Lortano does that in his videos but I wouldn’t do anything for now because Neph might change some stuff in the new Patch…

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    The list is better now.

    And when I said compare, I meant to have it all be standardized, so you don't have to think to much to quickly check a stat. The list performs this job well.

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    Stats might work better in a graph-like thing. I'm not sure how wiki's work, but if it was a universally designed graph for this sort of information, they would be easy to read and compare in the wiki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drazule View Post
    Stats might work better in a graph-like thing. I'm not sure how wiki's work, but if it was a universally designed graph for this sort of information, they would be easy to read and compare in the wiki.
    I don’t really see how you could compare the stats of every unit in the game with a graph without getting messy but I also don’t know much about how wiki works, and we might not be talking of the same thing…

    My idea was to make an Excel file with all units in the game divided by each faction, Neph probably made something like this in order to have an idea of the different factions.

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    You should keep in mind that all of the current stats are placeholder stats Undyingnephalim changes several of them every release. He will also do a complete balancing overhaul when he feels like it. I just wouldn't bother with the stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakeford View Post
    You should keep in mind that all of the current stats are placeholder stats Undyingnephalim changes several of them every release. He will also do a complete balancing overhaul when he feels like it. I just wouldn't bother with the stats.
    That is ok, it just be nice to have the wiki be useful. we can update stats as they change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakeford View Post
    You should keep in mind that all of the current stats are placeholder stats Undyingnephalim changes several of them every release. He will also do a complete balancing overhaul when he feels like it. I just wouldn't bother with the stats.
    But I still think we should put the stats on the Wiki, sometimes I want to know the stats of a unit and it’s always a problem to load the entire game just to know that…

    Of course, after we put the stats it would be nice if Neph told us the changes he makes after each patch so that everything could be updated.

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    May as well wait until the next release by this point.

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    But the next version is coming out within the next month! And then that will be patched shortly after! It would waste your time to put this info in when you'll have to change it at the soonest, tomorrow. And I don't understand why he wouldn't provide a changelog. But that's something that would come out with the final release, would it not? Why would he put it out until he's finalized every change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drazule View Post
    But the next version is coming out within the next month! And then that will be patched shortly after! It would waste your time to put this info in when you'll have to change it at the soonest, tomorrow. And I don't understand why he wouldn't provide a changelog. But that's something that would come out with the final release, would it not? Why would he put it out until he's finalized every change?
    Yes, yes i said that before... first we wait for this release and then we make the stats, I agree with you.
    I was saying that after the new patch and after we introduce the stats Neph could provide that changelog for new releases he makes... After all balancing the factions is not something you say its over, you have to keep doing it until everything is fine...

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    I hadn't realized you were arguing something different. It wouldn't hurt to keep the unit stats in the wiki though. We get 2 versions and 2 patches a year, and I doubt much of that is intense balance overhauls.

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    bump

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    I think one thing that would be quite good to add is when hero units appear in the free form, I will be happy to do this all i need to know is what a turn is to a year e.g one turn equals 2 years or something like that. Also maybe where mercenaries can be recruited as well, again I would be happy to help with this as well again just a thought

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