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    Default How you know RT is pure propaganda...

    Look at the difference in reporting of this one event:

    Russia Today: http://rt.com/news/168176-iraq-isis-planes-bomb/ - All but blaming the US

    The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...b-iraq-isis-us - Maliki, PM of Iraq, says Syria did it

    BBC: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28033684

    CBC: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/syria-l...rder-1.2687972

    France24: http://www.france24.com/en/20140626-...ilitants-isis/

    Al Arabiya: http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...ombs-Iraq.html

    Notice a difference?

    By the way the Russia Today site has not updated for the change.
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    Err... The first RT link does not blame the US. It simply reports that the US denies it bombed.

    And yeah. It was Syria. And America is angry, because only they're allowed to bomb Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    Err... The first RT link does not blame the US. It simply reports that the US denies it bombed.

    And yeah. It was Syria. And America is angry, because only they're allowed to bomb Iraq.
    The article is clearly spun to put suspicion on the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    The article is clearly spun to put suspicion on the US.
    Perhaps, but perhaps there were grounds for suspicion?

    Anyway, RT looks like propaganda because it comes from the other side of the fence. Its perhaps a bit cruder than the propaganda spewed out on Western channels, but not much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    Perhaps, but perhaps there were grounds for suspicion?

    Anyway, RT looks like propaganda because it comes from the other side of the fence. Its perhaps a bit cruder than the propaganda spewed out on Western channels, but not much.
    Being most western media outlets like to go out of their way and often will unfairly criticize their own governments/military I would have to say no, this isn't a game of relativism.
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    RT is biased against the US at the moment. So what? They just assumed US was likely behind it (which isn't unreasonable if you're not an expert on the situation), they didn't lie or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Being most western media outlets like to go out of their way and often will unfairly criticize their own governments/military I would have to say no, this isn't a game of relativism.
    Apples and oranges. Internal, criticism against a nation's government is one thing, media wars between nation states is something else entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Being most western media outlets like to go out of their way and often will unfairly criticize their own governments/military I would have to say no, this isn't a game of relativism.
    Unfair..not unless they are owned by Murdoch, his love of slaughter and oppression make him a natural conservative, so all his networks spew that reality denying vile creed.

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    Default Re: How you know RT is pure propaganda...

    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    Perhaps, but perhaps there were grounds for suspicion?

    Anyway, RT looks like propaganda because it comes from the other side of the fence. Its perhaps a bit cruder than the propaganda spewed out on Western channels, but not much.
    http://www.kommersant.com/page.asp?id=619775

    Old article, but RT has been for a while now. Reporters Without Borders have even realized that.

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    Yep, the difference is pretty stark I'd say. However, to be slightly fair, after hinting it was the US, RT did mention how Al-Arabiya said it could have been Syria doing the bombing, according to "tribal chiefs" and, you know, not Nouri al-Maliki himself as all the other articles report, with quotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    Anyway, RT looks like propaganda because it comes from the other side of the fence. Its perhaps a bit cruder than the propaganda spewed out on Western channels, but not much.
    Al Arabiya is Saudi, not Western and it agreed with Western Reports. Daily Star (Lebanese) had basically the same story was the Western reports.

    And when you say X denies something, its a roundabout way to blame them. Like saying Scarlett Johansen Died; President Obama Denies Responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Al Arabiya is Saudi, not Western and it agreed with Western Reports. Daily Star (Lebanese) had basically the same story was the Western reports.

    And when you say X denies something, its a roundabout way to blame them. Like saying Scarlett Johansen Died; President Obama Denies Responsibility.
    Well if Obama wasn't guilty of murdering Johansson then he shouldn't have come out and said anything about it in the first place!

    But Roma_Victrix, be reasonable, there were lots of people going around accusing Obama of this...without any evidence or even rationality, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Al Arabiya is Saudi, not Western and it agreed with Western Reports. Daily Star (Lebanese) had basically the same story was the Western reports.

    And when you say X denies something, its a roundabout way to blame them. Like saying Scarlett Johansen Died; President Obama Denies Responsibility.
    And the Saudis are allied with whom? Also who do they hate?

    Now I'm going to pick a piece of news from Russia, then the same from Belarus, Syria and Iran. Then one from the US and say ''PROOF THAT AMERICAN NEWS ARE ALL PROPAGANDA''

    ing retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    And the Saudis are allied with whom? Also who do they hate?

    Now I'm going to pick a piece of news from Russia, then the same from Belarus, Syria and Iran. Then one from the US and say ''PROOF THAT AMERICAN NEWS ARE ALL PROPAGANDA''

    ing retarded.
    I also used mentioned the Daily Stars which is Lebanese.

    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Leb...territory.ashx

    ing retarded posts like yours make me laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    I also used mentioned the Daily Stars which is Lebanese.

    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Leb...territory.ashx

    ing retarded posts like yours make me laugh.
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    At this point RT deserves the ''freedom of speech'' award for showing Americans that there's actually someone else in the world with another point of view, which in turn causes them an incredible butthurt, as demonstrated by threads and posts like this.

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    B-b-b-b-but the MSM is bad mmmkay.
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    The fact America isn't bombing Iraq is a goddamn travesty.

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    Today they are really going to town on how "painful" the EU Association Agreement will be for Ukraine. In spite of all the evidence to the contrary. Irish exports have grown from €8 billion to €80 billion since the 1980's. The Latvian economy is 40% larger and the Estonian one (despite higher unemployment) 33% bigger. The Irish economy is 8% the size of the Russian economy with only 3% of its population. The Customs Union is worth €2.9 trillion compared to the EU's €17 trillion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo2006 View Post
    Today they are really going to town on how "painful" the EU Association Agreement will be for Ukraine. In spite of all the evidence to the contrary. Irish exports have grown from €8 billion to €80 billion since the 1980's. The Latvian economy is 40% larger and the Estonian one (despite higher unemployment) 33% bigger. The Irish economy is 8% the size of the Russian economy with only 3% of its population. The Customs Union is worth €2.9 trillion compared to the EU's €17 trillion.
    Now take a look on the situation in those countries before signing the agreement, and compare it to the mess Ukraine is in.

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    All media do propaganda.

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    Not all media, and most countries don't try to close down all dissenting media outlets and forums, commercial or private.
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