[SubMod] Meerkat's Unit Balancing SubMod - Romans are playable now!

[shawn858]

will this mod continue to be updated seeing as how DEI implemented their own deadliness/ initiative changes to the romans and the gladius?

[Cavalier]

will this mod continue to be updated seeing as how DEI implemented their own deadliness/ initiative changes to the romans and the gladius?

As long as you load this mod above DeI it shouldn't be an issue, I don't think.

[Slashas]

I'm seeing some problems with DEI 9.5 and this, my romans are bad again

[FlashHeart07]

I'm seeing some problems with DEI 9.5 and this, my romans are bad again

Are you sure that this submod is overriding DEI? Otherwise you wont see the changes made by this. It should be loaded before DEI. Something that is easy enough to do if you use The unofficial mod manager.

[shawn858]

As long as you load this mod above DeI it shouldn't be an issue, I don't think.

I'm not having any issues. I suppose I should've really asked; "What differences are there between this submod and DEI? since the DEI team have buffed the deadliness and initiative for the romans themselves with .95. Is this submod pointless now?

[meerkatology]

I'm not having any issues. I suppose I should've really asked; "What differences are there between this submod and DEI? since the DEI team have buffed the deadliness and initiative for the romans themselves with .95. Is this submod pointless now?

i've been away for a while, i just took a look at 0.95, looks like they are doing something similar to my mod.

-if you want to make sure my mod is loading, look at the stats of a roman unit. my gladius units have around 20ish damage, 1 initiative, 3 deadliness. DEI 0.95 has 15 damage, 1 initiative and 5 deadliness.
-i ran a test in a 1v1 praetorian vs. pritanoi ambactoi, i still feel like romans are a bit weak in vanilla 0.95 but its much better than before and definitely playable.

I think the main difference between my mod and DeI 0.95 is that gladius has higher damage and lower deadliness so that armor makes some difference against it. with a deadliness of 5, despite being underpowered, it completely bypasses armor which doesn't quite make sense. dei 0.95 also haven't fixed some of the greek sword units that still have 0 initiative and are terribly underpowered.

overall, i'd still recommend my mod at this time.

[Cavalier]

i've been away for a while, i just took a look at 0.95, looks like they are doing something similar to my mod.

-if you want to make sure my mod is loading, look at the stats of a roman unit. my gladius units have around 20ish damage, 1 initiative, 3 deadliness. DEI 0.95 has 15 damage, 1 initiative and 5 deadliness.
-i ran a test in a 1v1 praetorian vs. pritanoi ambactoi, i still feel like romans are a bit weak in vanilla 0.95 but its much better than before and definitely playable.

I think the main difference between my mod and DeI 0.95 is that gladius has higher damage and lower deadliness so that armor makes some difference against it. with a deadliness of 5, despite being underpowered, it completely bypasses armor which doesn't quite make sense. dei 0.95 also haven't fixed some of the greek sword units that still have 0 initiative and are terribly underpowered.

overall, i'd still recommend my mod at this time.

I have to say I'm very satisfied with your mod. Finally my Romans manage to rack up some kills. DeI vanilla isn't bad either, but this submod really makes it shine for a Roman player/Greek Thorax player

[Leeham991]

Is this issue fixed in the latest version of DeI or will I need to get this submod?

[MagicCuboid]

Leeham, please read meerkatology's post literally two posts above yours.

[ozzyr]

Is this compatible with latest dei and can i use it with doctors submods? if so which should i load first?

very intresting mod btw

[Cavalier]

Is this compatible with latest dei and can i use it with doctors submods? if so which should i load first?

very intresting mod btw

It is, and yes it is. I load doktor's battle submod first, and then meerkat's.

[NiKuTa]

For me the biggest problem in DeI mod is armour system for units. Units without armour have high armour stats.
Example:
Early hastati and early Triarii.
This hastatii was low armoured units. They had shield, helmets, some soldiers had small chest-plate, and some have graves on left (front leg). Early triarii was very good armoured units. It was heavy unit. Triarii had bronze shield, bronze helmet, bronze plate, graves on legs. THis units was very good armoured unit. ANd what we have in stats. Hastatti have 40 armour, Triarii have 43 of armour. This all is wrong. This happen in all nations. Units which wasn't armoured in RL have high stats of armour in DeI mod. Some naked units, have high armour stats. Units which have normal clothes have very high armour. This system make that there in no difference between light, medium or heavy units. All have similar armour stats.

What is the best. Early and late Triarii. Late Triarii should have lower armour starts. Unit (late Triarii) had weaker armour but was lighter and more mobile unit. Late Trarii should have similar stats like late principes. This two units was similar armoured. This few units shows how armour system is messed up in DeI

[Sacrified]

Could you please update the non-steam link, the file got deleted. Thank you

[KAM 2150]

Mod was made for pre 1.0 version so all stuff was changed with current stats.