Bugs Reports & Technical Help

[Belovèse]

You misunderstood: you declared a regular counter. Not a event counter. And then used event counter conditions (I_EventCounter) and commands (inc_event_counter) instead of regular ones (I_CompareCounter and inc_counter).

There absolutely is no need to declare a event counter. But you have to declare a regular counter.

Simply remove the declare line to avoid possible issues - everything else will work as you intended as you consistently use event counter conditions and commands.
There aren't many scripting tutorials around. Mostly it's discussions about using certain script elements. Keep the docudemons handy: it lists what 'export' a condition needs which you can then look up in the event section. Saves you a good number of questions.

And you're always welcome to ask.

Well thank you, and I already have a small question: I wanted to add more log output in my campaign_script file, but it is not showing. I made this as a test:

    monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionType venice
        set_event_counter faction_turn_venice 1
        log always Turn Start venice
        log always this is another line
    end_monitor

But the second line isn't logged. I though it was maybe another file that was read, so I even deleted mods/SS6.3/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt to see but the mod starts, no ERROR showing on the interface, and the log still tells me it uses thsi mods/SS6.3/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt file... Anyone understand something to this?

[wilhelm de xin]

I wanted to say a huge thank you for all the work that has put into this mod. I really enjoyed it.

I started playing SSHIP v0.97 + patch F + KCC 095. And I have CTD every 4 or 5 turns. I wanted to ask if I installed SSHIP wrong. Here's how I installed the mod.

1. I installed SSHIP v0.97
2. patched F
3. then added KCC 095

Is this correct?

[Gigantus]

Well thank you, and I already have a small question: I wanted to add more log output in my campaign_script file, but it is not showing. I made this as a test:

    monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionType venice
        set_event_counter faction_turn_venice 1
        log always Turn Start venice
        log always this is another line
    end_monitor

But the second line isn't logged. I though it was maybe another file that was read, so I even deleted mods/SS6.3/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt to see but the mod starts, no ERROR showing on the interface, and the log still tells me it uses thsi mods/SS6.3/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt file... Anyone understand something to this?

Consecutive log entries are totally pointless: the sole reason for the log entry to provide an easily found reference point within the log for the event that the log command is triggering in. The text provided is nothing but a label for that reference point.
'wait' might do the trick, but I suggest to simply amend the text if you really need to cram more stuff into the log entry. No sense in compromising the script for a purely cosmetic matter in a log that only gets read by users that know what they are looking for.

Come to think of it: 'log info' would actually the more appropriate coding, given the content of the message. 'log always' is the default format. Other log 'labels: trace, warn, debug, err, fatal

[Belovèse]

Consecutive log entries are totally pointless: the sole reason for the log entry to provide an easily found reference point within the log for the event that the log command is triggering in. The text provided is nothing but a label for that reference point.
'wait' might do the trick, but I suggest to simply amend the text if you really need to cram more stuff into the log entry. No sense in compromising the script for a purely cosmetic matter in a log that only gets read by users that know what they are looking for.

Come to think of it: 'log info' would actually the more appropriate coding, given the content of the message. 'log always' is the default format. Other log 'labels: trace, warn, debug, err, fatal

Yep I looked on the docudemon and thought I would also go for log info or log debug. But I also tried modifying an existing entry, like this:

log always Turn Start venice

to this:

log always ---- Turn Start venice

and the log file was still not showing the changes. To avoid cluttering this thread I opened a thread in the workshop about this.

[kostic]

I wanted to say a huge thank you for all the work that has put into this mod. I really enjoyed it.

I started playing SSHIP v0.97 + patch F + KCC 095. And I have CTD every 4 or 5 turns. I wanted to ask if I installed SSHIP wrong. Here's how I installed the mod.

1. I installed SSHIP v0.97
2. patched F
3. then added KCC 095

Is this correct?

I think this is the correct method. I can possibly provide the battle_models.modeldb that Gigantus corrected for KCC, but I'm not at all sure the CTDs come from there.

[Giorgios]

I wanted to say a huge thank you for all the work that has put into this mod. I really enjoyed it.

I started playing SSHIP v0.97 + patch F + KCC 095. And I have CTD every 4 or 5 turns. I wanted to ask if I installed SSHIP wrong. Here's how I installed the mod.

1. I installed SSHIP v0.97
2. patched F
3. then added KCC 095

Is this correct?

I think this is the correct method. I can possibly provide the battle_models.modeldb that Gigantus corrected for KCC, but I'm not at all sure the CTDs come from there.

This sounds very similar to my experience. Wilhelm, are you experiencing your CTD at either the very end of the Pope's turn or the beginning of the Rebel turn? That's where all mine have been, up until the Mongol emergence, where I now have a permanent game breaking CTD that I can't get past.

[kostic]

For all these CTDs, it is important to read the system.log which is located in the SS6.3 folder.
The end of the report may give a clue as to the origin of the crash.
You must register

[log]
to = mods / SS6.3 / system.log.txt
level = * error
; level = * trace

in the default.cfg file for interesting information.


Personally, I sometimes have a CTD during my campaigns; sometimes during battle, sometimes (rarer) while scrolling factions on the campaign map.
Resuming the last backup, I have always managed to get past the problem so far.
The most common type of error displayed is for campaign_script file or Germanicus battle AI (not sure spelling ).


Here is attached the battle_models.modeldb file corrected by Gigantus for those who installed KCC 0.9.5 : battle_models.modeldb Gigantus for KCC 0.9.5


Once the file is downloaded, unzip it in the data / unit_models folder

[Macaras]

I started playing Venice and noticed that Consigliere Domenico is not in the family tree. All his adopted generals and children also dont appear there..
I did a little research and found out that he was married to Sophia who was a lady from some foreign eastern country. I don't know if there is a way to add in the family tree a general that is not related to the king-leader, so I just added him a new doughter - Sophia and married her to Domenico. Now Domenico appears in the tree, even though its not accurate in the sense that Sophia was not a real daughter of the Venetian Dodge (she could be adopted, maybe the historians don't know some details of her life.. .

What I did was to add a name Sophia in the descr_names.txt in the Venetian sector and added this line in descr_strat.txt:

character_record        Sophia Polani,     female, age 25, alive, never_a_leader

and then a little modification in the 'relative' section:

relative     Pietro Polani,    Adelasia Michele,    Sophia Polani,    Francesca Polani,    Naimero Polani,    Giovanni Polani,    end
relative    Domenico Morosini,    Sophia Polani,    end 

I am sharing this so if you want to do the same you already have a solution, feel free to use it (it would be an honor for me) or if you know a better way to fix it, that's good too.

[Jurand of Cracow]

I started playing Venice and noticed that Consigliere Domenico is not in the family tree. All his adopted generals and children also dont appear there..
I did a little research and found out that he was married to Sophia who was a lady from some foreign eastern country. I don't know if there is a way to add in the family tree a general that is not related to the king-leader, so I just added him a new doughter - Sophia and married her to Domenico. Now Domenico appears in the tree, even though its not accurate in the sense that Sophia was not a real daughter of the Venetian Dodge (she could be adopted, maybe the historians don't know some details of her life.. .

What I did was to add a name Sophia in the descr_names.txt in the Venetian sector and added this line in descr_strat.txt:

character_record        Sophia Polani,     female, age 25, alive, never_a_leader

and then a little modification in the 'relative' section:

relative     Pietro Polani,    Adelasia Michele,   Sophia Polani,    Francesca Polani,    Naimero Polani,    Giovanni Polani,    end
relative    Domenico Morosini,    Sophia Polani,    end 

I am sharing this so if you want to do the same you already have a solution, feel free to use it (it would be an honor for me) or if you know a better way to fix it, that's good too.

If you'd like to become specialist on coding the family tree, you're welcome!
Actually, it was VineFynn one year ago who fixed many flaws in the trees given that the SSHIP's inherited them from SS6.4 that starts in 1100.
I believe we still need an historical update on some of the trees. Me, I'll be able to provide information about Georgia, Poland and Lithuania (well, this would be purely fictional, of course).

I have installed the clean ss6.4 installerer.exe and copied and replaced the data folder of sship0.97 played with Rum-Seljuqs, the mod is very great and im so thankful there are more guys like me who love mtw2(the best TW by far). Sadly i got some experience with CTDs mostly at battels (for exampel : Ive quit campaign mode and clicked on custom battel -> CTD) .

My Last CTD is the reason why i write in this forum because i want to improve this beautiful mod:

The Case:
Playing with Rum-Seljuqs 15 Turns with out CTD
on Win 10 (with compatibility XP service 39
SteamVersion of the Game

-Last turn fought 2 battels against Romans in a row.
After the second Battel at the winning screen i experienced a CTD.

09:05:16.845 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/ss6.3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga (from: F:\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War)
09:05:17.153 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

In the current version of the SSHIP we haven't experienced many battle-related crashes. The log doesn't tell anything.

BTW - I believe the custom battles are related to some problems and I haven't personally fought any of these. I'm not interested in these.

[Macaras]

If you'd like to become specialist on coding the family tree, you're welcome!

@Jurand: Yes, absolutely! Where should I start ? Checking the family trees of these three factions for some possible mistakes like the one with Venice ?

[Jurand of Cracow]

@Jurand: Yes, absolutely! Where should I start ? Checking the family trees of these three factions for some possible mistakes like the one with Venice ?

Well, it's always the choice of a moder, it should be adjusted to his passion.

the list of the VineFynn's changes is here.

In the script I've got such a passage:

;------------- Character Strat Inits ------------------- ; for whatever reason it should be at the beginning of the script
; in the future it's better to delete those guys from the strat.txt file
; but adjustment in family tree are needed beforehand.


monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart
send_character_off_map isaakios1
send_character_off_map ioannis1
send_character_off_map aliibnnizar1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

I have no idea how difficult it's to fix it, or whether it's really needed.

Besides, I think there're reports and suggestions in the factions' webpages about the required changes but I've forgotten in which ones - you'd need to look through the last entries for factions like England or something.

Thesetwoneedixinorsuer:

00:21:37.623 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/SSHIP098/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 1454, column 1The character record Consigliere Domenico is set as faction heir but is not in the family tree.
00:21:38.034 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/SSHIP098/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 10120, column 1
The character record Prince Guillaume is set as faction heir but is not in the family tree.

Bari is an odd one- I've seen various references to its Greek name as either being Baris or Barion- and not sure where to find sources as to which is correct.

The current names for Byzantine settlements I've taken mostly from here- the mapmaker is Ian Mladjov. I've seen his work used in academic contexts, so I think he's reasonably trustworthy.

Greek names for Byzantine-adjacent settlements, between this map and my own knowledge should be something like...

Nis- Naissos
Tarnovo- Tirnabos
Ragusa- Rausion
Skodra- Skodron
Bari- Baris, or Barion
Reggio- Rhegion
Naples- Neapolis
Palermo- Panormos
Konya- Ikonion
Ankara- Ankyra
Kayseri- Kaisareia
Sis- Sision
Sivas- Sebasteia
Trebizond- Trapezous or Trapezounta
Malatya- Melitene
Antioch- Antiokheia

I like Barion more B-)
I've implemented some of the names, and I keep on implementing further ones. Do you know their Arabic / Turkish equivalents (as you've hinted at the one for Palermo)? @Ceph would take on them at some point, I think, but maybe it'd be easy for you.

    ;------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tarnovo

    declare_counter current_name_Tarnovo        ; 0 - TarnovoGreek, 1 - Tarnovo
    set_counter current_name_Tarnovo 0


    monitor_event GeneralCaptureSettlement SettlementName Tarnovo


        if I_EventCounter faction_turn_byzantium = 1            ; for the Byzantines


            change_settlement_name Tarnovo TarnovoGreek
            
            if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
            and I_CompareCounter current_name_Tarnovo < 1
                historic_event SETTLEMENT_NAME_CHANGE
            end_if
        
            set_counter current_name_Tarnovo 1        
        end_if


        if I_EventCounter faction_turn_catholic = 1                ; for the Catholics


            change_settlement_name Tarnovo TarnovoGreek
            
            if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
            and I_CompareCounter current_name_Tarnovo < 1
                historic_event SETTLEMENT_NAME_CHANGE
            end_if
        
            set_counter current_name_Tarnovo 1        
        end_if
        
        if I_EventCounter faction_turn_byzantium = 0            ; for the other Orthodox
        and I_EventCounter faction_turn_orthodox = 1
        
            change_settlement_name Tarnovo Tarnovo
            
            if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
            and I_CompareCounter current_name_Tarnovo > 0
                historic_event SETTLEMENT_NAME_CHANGE
            end_if
        
            set_counter current_name_Tarnovo 0        
        end_if
        
    end_monitor

[Giorgios]

I've implemented some of the names, and I keep on implementing further ones. Do you know their Arabic / Turkish equivalents (as you've hinted at the one for Palermo)? @Ceph would take on them at some point, I think, but maybe it'd be easy for you.

Adding some in the Byzantine resources thread!

Have you been able to help with my Mongol CTD?

[Jurand of Cracow]

Have you been able to help with my Mongol CTD?

Unfortunately, not. I'm sorry.

Thanks for all material, I'll be gradually implemeted.

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------  RAGUSA

    declare_counter current_name_Ragusa							; 0 - Ragusa, 1 - RagusaGreek, 2 - RagusaSlavic
    set_counter current_name_Ragusa 0


    monitor_event GeneralCaptureSettlement SettlementName Ragusa


		if I_EventCounter faction_turn_catholic = 1				; for the non-Slavic Catholic
		and not I_EventCounter faction_turn_poland = 1
		
			change_settlement_name Ragusa Ragusa
			
			if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
			and I_CompareCounter current_name_Ragusa < 1
				historic_event SETTLEMENT_NAME_CHANGE
			end_if
		
			set_counter current_name_Ragusa 0	
		end_if
		
		if I_EventCounter faction_turn_byzantium = 1			; for the Byzantines


			change_settlement_name Ragusa RagusaGreek
			
			if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
			and I_CompareCounter current_name_Ragusa < 1
				historic_event SETTLEMENT_NAME_CHANGE
			end_if


			if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
			and I_CompareCounter current_name_Ragusa > 1
				historic_event SETTLEMENT_NAME_CHANGE
			end_if
			
			set_counter current_name_Ragusa 1		
		end_if


		if I_EventCounter faction_turn_poland = 1				; for Poland
		
			change_settlement_name Ragusa RagusaSlavic
			
			if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
			and I_CompareCounter current_name_Ragusa < 2
				historic_event SETTLEMENT_NAME_CHANGE
			end_if
		
			set_counter current_name_Ragusa 2		
		end_if
		
		if I_EventCounter faction_turn_byzantium = 0			; for Slavic Orthodox
		and I_EventCounter faction_turn_orthodox = 1
		and not I_EventCounter faction_turn_georgia = 1
		
			change_settlement_name Ragusa RagusaSlavic
			
			if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
			and I_CompareCounter current_name_Ragusa < 2
				historic_event SETTLEMENT_NAME_CHANGE
			end_if
		
			set_counter current_name_Ragusa 2		
		end_if


		if I_EventCounter is_the_player = 1 
		and RandomPercent < 66
		and I_EventCounter is_the_ai > 2
			console_command set_building_health Ragusa hinterland_roads 60
		end_if	
		
    end_monitor

[wilhelm de xin]

This sounds very similar to my experience. Wilhelm, are you experiencing your CTD at either the very end of the Pope's turn or the beginning of the Rebel turn? That's where all mine have been, up until the Mongol emergence, where I now have a permanent game breaking CTD that I can't get past.

I had couple CTDs around those turns, sometimes in other factions as well.
So I re-installed the mod and didn't get a CTD this time. I'm around turn 50. Here's what I did:

1. install SSHIP v0.97
2. patched F
3. This time, I left KCC 095 out and didn't have a CTD. Not sure if that was the reason. The other thing I did was making the SS 6.4 Launcher compatible with windows 7 and making it run as "administrator."

[Belovèse]

I had couple CTDs around those turns, sometimes in other factions as well.
So I re-installed the mod and didn't get a CTD this time. I'm around turn 50. Here's what I did:

1. install SSHIP v0.97
2. patched F
3. This time, I left KCC 095 out and didn't have a CTD. Not sure if that was the reason. The other thing I did was making the SS 6.4 Launcher compatible with windows 7 and making it run as "administrator."

As for me KCC is working fine, but I did also checked "run as administrator". It is best to also check this option for kingdom.exe, that is in your base medieval folder: the SS6.4 launcher launches the game using this kingdom.exe.
I have very few CTD with this.

[alexsanjaya]

Not sure if I post this in the correct thread since I don't see any other open thread pertinent to my issue.

Is there any torrent download source for this submod, just like how the base Stainless Steel 6.4? Downloading a file the size of this submod from both source has proven to be a difficult borderline non-viable option for me. I've already wasting time & money to try to download from both source.

Thanks beforehand

[Jurand of Cracow]

Not sure if I post this in the correct thread since I don't see any other open thread pertinent to my issue.

Is there any torrent download source for this submod, just like how the base Stainless Steel 6.4? Downloading a file the size of this submod from both source has proven to be a difficult borderline non-viable option for me. I've already wasting time & money to try to download from both source.

Thanks beforehand

I'm not aware of any torrent, I'm sorry.

[alexsanjaya]

I'm not aware of any torrent, I'm sorry.

Why not making it available, just like the baseline Stainless Steel 6.4 and EB2 does? You know to make things easier for those of us outside the region that is not the market segment of the file hosting service.

[sarpedon21]

when i start the mod it gets up to the loading screen then exits to desktop. what i did - downloaded 6.3/6.4 from moddb (used the file that has the 6.3/6.4 combined as it says everything else is corrupted). - run the installer once - installed SSHIP 0.97 im on windows 10


and heres the log file 04:11:14.955 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2 04:11:14.955 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Sep 5 2014 version development === 04:11:14.955 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack 04:11:14.955 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack 04:11:14.955 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack 04:11:14.955 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack 04:11:14.955 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack 04:11:14.955 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack 04:11:18.654 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/SS6.3/data/descr_mount.txt, at line 343, column 1 Could not find battle model for mount 'Mount_order_Mailed_Horse'. 04:11:18.654 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/SS6.3/data/descr_mount.txt, at line 358, column 1 Could not find battle model for mount 'Mount_order_Mailed_Horse2'. 04:11:20.165 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/SS6.3/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 196, column 32 Invalid ownership type 'rum' found in unit 'baghlah'. 04:11:20.165 [data.invalid] [error] DATABASE_TABLE error found : error reading record from file mods/SS6.3/data/export_descr_unit.txt.

edit downloaded the combined ss6.4/SSHIP/COSTIC 0.95 from here https://mega.nz/file/0GgmxJia#LcdGnb...TPDOVbQ6QYeDdg , and it still doesnt load.

my log is this 10:30:50.931 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2 10:30:50.932 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Sep 5 2014 version development === 10:30:50.935 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack 10:30:50.935 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack 10:30:50.936 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack 10:30:50.936 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack 10:30:50.937 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack 10:30:50.937 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack 10:30:55.125 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/SSHIP098/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 196, column 32 Invalid ownership type 'rum' found in unit 'baghlah'. 10:30:55.126 [data.invalid] [error] DATABASE_TABLE error found : error reading record from file mods/SSHIP098/data/export_descr_unit.txt.

[kostic]

If I understand you correctly, you cannot run SSHIP 0.9.7 alone, nor the one with KCC 0.9.5 ?


Is SS6.4 working correctly on your PC ?