Bugs Reports & Technical Help

**Just let me post** · July 08, 2020, 06:32 AM

Thanks for sheding light on this guys. It's definitely battle script error.

FYI: It always crashes when I rush with knights and then pull them back (whole enemy army goes into pursuit mode) behind my lines (which I guess makes AI targeting go mad).
If I don't do that, the battle works great

**The Despondent Mind** · July 09, 2020, 02:33 PM

You probably know about this(maybe its not a bug?) but Seljuk FM called "Garshasp" has ahdath militia as his BG.

Not sure about everyone else, but the Abbassids are crazy with spamming assassins.

**Gigantus** · July 09, 2020, 02:38 PM

Get your spam stopper here

**Jurand of Cracow** · July 09, 2020, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by The Despondent Mind

You probably know about this(maybe its not a bug?) but Seljuk FM called "Garshasp" has ahdath militia as his BG.

Not sure about everyone else, but the Abbassids are crazy with spamming assassins.

Garshasp in 097 has ME Bodyguards.

agent spam will be limited in 097 as far as the merchants and diplomats are concerned (but there'll be more princesses). In the future I plan to do similar thing with priests, spies and assassins - but some reflection is needed beforehand.

MERCHANTS* the goal of these changes is to limit the increase of time the player deals with the merchants as the faction grows. The fewer merchants but each providing more income will be good for playing experience.
- availability limited to a few per faction. They'll be provided by:
(1) each capital (ie if you take another faction capital, you can recruit an additional merchant)
(2) guilds: Merchants, Explorers & Hanseatic (only after Ostsiedlung event).
(3) large cities in North Italy and in the Low Countries (if Warehouse is built).
(4) all huge coastal cities (if Docklands are built).
- information windows on their impact have been included.
- the traits of the merchants have not yet been reviewed after 092, but they seem to work more-or-less ok.

DIPLOMATS
* the goal of these changes is to limit the processing time of the turns since the AI diplomats sometimes keep on trying to bribe cities and that makes turns longer if they are numerous. Another reason is to decrease the diplomat spam the player makes, keeping a diplomat at each of the enemy faction.
- every faction should have an access to a diplomat from the very beginning. However, there'll be fewer diplomat in-game overall because: 1. many AI diplomats very often checked the other cities for bribe and this slowed the processing time much, 2. there's a Noble Lady script: each faction gets a princess every ca. 40 turns. To this end the diplomat are available from:
(1) the administrative buildings in the capitals only (ie. provinces with hidden resource capital: if the player conquers another faction capital, he'll have access to another diplomat).
(2) Explorers Guilds, Theologian Guilds (note: the Latin Europe factions will get this ability only after 4th Lateran Council).
(3) Universities.
- information windows on their impact have been included.
- the traits for the diplomats had been reviewed for 096.

**The Despondent Mind** · July 09, 2020, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Gigantus

Get your spam stopper here

I will make good use of this, thanks.

**praetorian177** · July 10, 2020, 04:21 AM

Hello! I installed only SSHIP with the guide provided (not any submod), OS Windows 10, MTW2 Steam version, with byzantine faction (difficulty: medium - battle difficulty: medium, campaign rules: long).

Missing voices: Italian language, some faction agents do not speak:
1. Serbia
2. Hungary
3. Scotland
4. Norway
5. Poland
6. Kievan Rus
7. Denmark
8. Novgorod

The city of “Sebasteia” does not give a provincial title to any of my generals

Some resources are not reachable by my merchant, like marble near the city of "Qaliqala”

AI princesses have no name (empty space like [] is shown). In my game I had added some traits, could this be the cause?
1. NaturalPrincess 3
2. GoodPrincess 4
3. FairWoman 3
4. FertileWoman 3

Before a battle I added some traits to my general and the battle with these new traits crashed (unexpected error was reported, but I do not have anymore the log contents). I removed them and the battle ended without problems
1. HaleAndHearty 3
2. Loyal 3
3. Intelligent 3

--- Possible bugs? ---

The city of “Ikonion” after conquered it for 200+ turns always needs that a general is in the city otherwise the public order is red (I built all structures that give positive public order and the city is not bordered by enemy factions) only after plague epidemics did public order stabilize for a few turns

The sub mod “Royal Ladies of the Court (RLC)” is in SSHIP? if so, it does not appear in my game

The lake that borders the "Armenian Highland" region, the city of reference is "Qaliqala", generates pirate ships

thanks for your wonderful mod and work (sorry for my English)

**Jurand of Cracow** · July 10, 2020, 08:00 AM

many thanks for reporting it all! if only everybody would it in this way, bugfixing would be easy!

I believe JLMP has fixed the voices in 097.

Sebasteia - I think it's fixed in 097:

Code:

;------------------------------------------ Trigger odearmad_iconium 
 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd 
 Condition EndedInSettlement 
 and SettlementName Sives
 and CultureType greek
 and IsGeneral
 
 and not HasAncType dearmad_her
 and not FactionwideAncillaryExists odearmad_iconium
 
 AcquireAncillary odearmad_iconium chance 100

Ikonion - yes, this is the case with all foreign culture capitals.

RCL is not in the SSHIP, a script for princess is a kind of replacement.
Princesses are all fixed in 097.

Qaliquala has in 097 resource no_pirates - no more those ships.

Can you provide a pic with that unreachable resource?

**praetorian177** · July 10, 2020, 08:04 AM

(I can't edit my previous post (it seems because I'm a new user) I edited and added some issues, I hope the previous post can be deleted)
Hello! I installed only SSHIP with the guide provided (not any submod), OS Windows 10, MTW2 Steam version, with byzantine faction (difficulty: medium - battle difficulty: medium, campaign rules: long).

1. Missing voices: Italian language, some faction agents do not speak:

a. Serbia
b. Hungary
c. Scotland
d. Norway
e. Poland
f. Kievan Rus
g. Denmark
h. Novgorod

2. The city of “Sebasteia” does not give a provincial title to any of my generals

3. Some resources are not reachable by my merchant, like marble near the city of "Qaliqala”

4. AI princesses have no name (empty space like [] is shown). In my game I had added some traits, could this be the cause?

a. NaturalPrincess 3
b. GoodPrincess 4
c. FairWoman 3
d. FertileWoman 3

5. Before a battle I added some traits to my general and the battle with these new traits crashed (unexpected error was reported, but I do not have anymore the log contents). I removed them and the battle ended without problems

a. HaleAndHearty 3
b. Loyal 3
c. Intelligent 3

--- Possible bugs? ---

6. The city of “Ikonion” after conquered it for 200+ turns always needs that a general is in the city otherwise the public order is red (I built all structures that give positive public order and the city is not bordered by enemy factions) only after plague epidemics did public order stabilize for a few turns

7. The sub mod “Royal Ladies of the Court (RLC)” is in SSHIP? if so, it does not appear in my game

8. The lake that borders the "Armenian Highland" region, the city of reference is "Qaliqala", generates pirate ships

9. (New to older post) The "Skewed view" trait is very frequent and brings almost all my generals the "deranged" trait

10. (New to older post) Sometimes agents from other factions board ships and land immediately afterwards, repeating this action for several turns.

thanks for your wonderful mod and work (sorry for my English)

**Just let me post** · July 10, 2020, 08:30 AM

I did fix everything for English version, other localizations got moderately improved.

Have you used the official soundfix @praetorian?

**praetorian177** · July 10, 2020, 08:48 AM

Thank you for your answer!!
I used the soundfix but didn't solve the problem
this is the picture:
https://imgur.com/a/KK33TVq

**praetorian177** · July 10, 2020, 09:30 AM

I tried the soundfix again today and only Scotland has the missing voices. (thank you!)
I point out that now the sound produced when I click on any button in the main menu has disappeared. (anyway thanks for your work!)

**lequintal69** · July 10, 2020, 09:33 AM

I dont know if it falls into the bug catergory, but I find assassins (and to a lesser extend spies) overpowered.

My 1 star assassin has 47% chance to kill the pope
My 5 star assassin has 66% to kill a 6 stars general

I did a campaign where I spammed assassins (probably like 50-60 kills) and really, the odds are too forgiving. On top of that, AI (in hard mod) doesnt really ever use assassin at me to make it atleast fair.
Likewise, spies have it way too easy to open gates imo. (I dont think getting intel isn't a problem tho).

So, maybe you could tweak one of those:
-reduce overall success for assassin/spies
-Give em a WAY bigger upkeep/recruitment cost, (especially for assassins) to simulate the price it would cost to recruit such individuals and the cost requiered to bribe people to allow for an assassination
-Give some buildings (directly, if possible), bonus to resist assassination/detect spies
- or give more anti agents traits (especially for important titles). A king / popê/ big general shoudlnt be sniped easily
-In case of a failed attemp, decrease even more the chance of success for following attemps

2- Is it possible to tweak the average age of natural death? In my opinion, characters live way too long (i got many generals 73+, i mean that was really not common)

3 - the "feeling honored/dishonored trait", what can I do to get it? Just giving title/armies to my generals?

**Jurand of Cracow** · July 10, 2020, 12:19 PM

@ praetorian:

I'd say 264 turns is not bad! Congratulations. You also may put some info on your campaign in the relevant thread :-)

ad. 3 - thanks, I'll move that marble so that it's possible to trade it.

ad. 4,5 - additional traits may be the source of the crashes, you never know. There may be other reason as well. But 264 turns means you can play very long without crashes (or despite them ;-)

ad. 9 - yeah, I hope it won't happen in the new version.

ad. 10 - unknow to me.

@ lequintal:

assassins (but also priests vs. heretics) - I need to look into it at some time. I haven't dealt with it, frankly speaking, otherwise than by programming traits (some of your ideas are already programmed). But this need to be adjusted in parameters.

ad. 2 yes, it is. I've already lowered it (min. death age of 55 iirc, before 60). However, I don't think it's a good idea to go lower - the traits are programmed in the view of 70 turns of life after the school age. I know some generals live too long, but I hope we can live with it.

ad. 3 - this is an element of the ContentGeneral trait. Some triggers are here:

Code:

;------------------------------------------Trigger Loyalty_Check_WonBattle
 WhenToTest PostBattle


 Condition WonBattle
       and not IsFactionLeader
       and I_ConflictType Normal
       and BattleOdds < 1.75


 Affects ContentGeneral 1 Chance 75 


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Loyalty_Check_Buildings2
 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


 Condition EndedInSettlement
       and not IsFactionLeader
       and GovernorBuildingExists >= large_stone_wall
       and Attribute Command < 6
       and not Trait Far_Loyalty > 0


 Affects ContentGeneral 1 Chance 15 


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Loyalty_Check_Buildings3
 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


 Condition EndedInSettlement
       and not IsFactionLeader
       and GovernorBuildingExists >= fortress
       and Attribute Command < 6
       and not Trait Far_Loyalty > 0


 Affects ContentGeneral 1 Chance 15 


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Loyalty_Check_Similar_Attributes
 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


 Condition IsGeneral
       and not IsFactionLeader
       and Attribute Chivalry >= 3
       and FactionLeaderAttribute Chivalry >= 3
       and not Trait Far_Loyalty > 0


 Affects ContentGeneral 1 Chance 5

**Millan-Astray** · July 19, 2020, 10:23 AM

I'm playing with castille and my game keeps crashing after a siege battle to defend Cordoba. Always follows the same pattern, the battle goes on normally, I win, then exit the battle screen and goes to the turns, and before reach my turn the game crashes. Only stopped crashing when auto-resolved the battle.
I'm using the kostic models, and nothing else different.

**Nemesis2345** · July 19, 2020, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Millan-Astray

I'm playing with castille and my game keeps crashing after a siege battle to defend Cordoba. Always follows the same pattern, the battle goes on normally, I win, then exit the battle screen and goes to the turns, and before reach my turn the game crashes. Only stopped crashing when auto-resolved the battle.
I'm using the kostic models, and nothing else different.

Unfortunately , some battles just make the script go nuts and crash , glad the auto-resolve fixed the issue at least .

**nashpik** · July 20, 2020, 03:19 AM

Hi guys.

Can anyone help me with the following CTD?
It occurs on rebels' turn when they sally out for a battle.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Jurand of Cracow** · July 20, 2020, 05:02 AM

upload a save and tell which version you're using

**Gigantus** · July 20, 2020, 05:32 AM

Condition parser doesn't recognise this token: trait

From the last log, multiple instances - not fatal and not related to the crash, but I think it's a simple matter of capitalization to fix those trigger errors, eg and Trait drunkard > 0.

attribute type not recognised

That's possibly a trait or trait effect instead of an attribute like piety or loyalty

Nothing worse then some elaborate trait set up that flops because of an error like this.

**nashpik** · July 20, 2020, 06:52 AM

Jurand of Cracow;15935563]

upload a save and tell which version you're using

Hi JoC.
I'm using 0.96 with Kostic's mini mod

Autosave.rar

**RomanGloria** · July 22, 2020, 05:28 AM

Firenza tittle retinue is called Pisa.

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