Bugs Reports & Technical Help

**Larsok** · January 18, 2022, 07:37 PM

I am having a similar issue playing the latest 0.98 beta in which I get an immediate CTD when I hover the cursor over a Fatimid city. It's happened with Alexandria, Damietta, that one south of Tunis, as long as they were controlled by Fatimids. The last lines in the log look like this:

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If anyone else has this problem and has solved it, let me know. It seems to happen less often when I have just restarted my PC, but it might just be my imagination. It has definitely happened immediately afterwards. Fatimids are already dominating the map and every time I try to fight them they hit me with CTD.

**filmfixed** · January 18, 2022, 09:11 PM

They happen when I hover over the map, I actually think it has something to do with where the mouse is actually hovering. Especially if I hover my mouse over Al-Qahira it can crash, seems very similar to the previous crashes when clicking on a certain character.

They also don't happen 100% of the time just 80% of the time.

I feel it is similar to the crashes I was having at the start of my campaign when hovering over Anatolia, this was resolved for me by certain characters dieing.

I'll see if I can capture Cairo and whether the crashes persist after this.

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Also thanks heaps for the informed responses, you all do an incredible job building this mod up. Cheers

**filmfixed** · January 19, 2022, 11:10 PM

The crashes do not persist once I have captured the cities for myself.

I can also confirm that a reboot does seem to improve things for some time and that playing without other apps open does seem to help. But this is just my impression, could very much be unrelated.

Having now captured all of north Egypt, I am getting CTD when travelling to southern Egypt where the Fatimid's still reside. It's definitely some issue with their faction (maybe some other Islamic factions too).

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**Jurand of Cracow** · January 23, 2022, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by kostic

To stay on top of this topic, these negative traits are both inappropriate but also contradictory. See what it looks like on the same previous general who won the last battle:

Originally Posted by kostic

2- It was not a defeat. When a city is under siege, there is the possibility of fighting to liberate it, but when the enemy army is too large, making an exit to weaken the adversary can be useful before returning to take shelter in the enclosure. That's what I did. despite the courage of the general who left to fight, he then found himself with the trait "faltering courage".
The trait obtained this time is not "faltering courage", but is not very rewarding after all these heroic actions ...

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My general has also lost a star of command against a religious halo. So he was a bad strategist ?

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I started the same battle again to try to find the "faltering courage" trait, I had another trait instead ... unfortunately still quite inappropriate, don't you think ?

Conclusion: the particular case - but which can happen often - of a general who courageously attacks his enemies during an sortie does not give a satisfactory trait and even contrary to what it should be, given the risk taken by the player losing his general.

I believe - but I have no knowledge of scripting - that there should only be this type of trait for generals who have not personally participated in a fight. As soon as a general takes part in a fight:
- especially if he kills a lot of opponents
- especially if he is injured
This one should obtain positive traits and / or valuing his courage.

Originally Posted by kostic

We should add something like "and caused no casualties" "and was not hurt" ...
You can't accept these unfair traits if you can do something about it with coding. Better that the general harvest nothing than negative traits !

I cannot take the information panel when I leave the battle after an outing, but it is clearly stated on it: "your exit was a success ! You can now leave the battle"

Originally Posted by Macaras

Why don't we change these traits? I totally agree with Kostic - the leniency traits (poor disciplinarian, too lenient etc.) and faltering courage are right now unreasonable and unhistorical IMO. Why general have to fight himself in the battle? that was not always the case and it was not cowardly generals who wouldn't fight themselves.. Some factions have the archer units as general, or stay inside during the siege, why do they have to be penalize for that.. Besides that, I was trying to understand the logic of the "poor disciplinarian", but without reading the code it makes no sense. To me it just appears somewhere in the game, and I learned not to pay attention to it. I also don't think these traits add anything important to the game - together with my most hated trait - "senile and co." "Regent" is another thing, I understand its much more complicated, but the others could be easily changed..

I keep on thinking of the issue of negative traits. I've added conditions for lower difficulties for Coward, but still need to review the whole file and to count probabilities.

Code:

;--------------------------------------------------------- Coward from Battles; the challenge of adjusting parameters in Conditions is:
; they should punish the behaviour of too-safe play by the player:
; - a general is just watching the battle, not participating
; - the player is autoresolving a risky battle (not to mention save-and-reload...)
; - the player is withdrawing having seen the risky odds
; but should not punish autoresolving unimportant battles


;------------------------------------------
Trigger BattleCoward_No_Killed_Enemies
 WhenToTest PostBattle


 Condition IsGeneral
       and BattleOdds < 2.0                        ; 3.0 was too much for autoresolving
       and GeneralNumKillsInBattle < 2
       and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel > 2    ; only for Hard and VeryHard
       
 Affects Coward 1 Chance 15                        ; to keep it low... otherwise too many autoresolve give it


;------------------------------------------
Trigger BattleCoward_No_Real_Fight
 WhenToTest PostBattle


 Condition IsGeneral
       and BattleOdds < 1.2
       and PercentageBodyguardKilled < 20
       and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel > 2    ; only for Hard and VeryHard
       
 Affects Coward 1 Chance 33 
 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger BattleCoward_Loss_Without_Fight
 WhenToTest PostBattle


 Condition IsGeneral
       and not WonBattle
       and BattleOdds < 2.0
       and PercentageBodyguardKilled < 50
       and Trait CounterOfBattles < 6            ; to avoid a paradox of a coward experienced general
       and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel > 2    ; only for Hard and VeryHard
              
 Affects Coward 1 Chance 33 


;------------------------------------------
Trigger BattleCoward_Routed
 WhenToTest BattleGeneralRouted


 Condition IsGeneral
       and Trait CounterOfBattles < 6            ; to avoid a paradox of a coward experienced general; one may add more conditions here
       
 Affects Coward 1 Chance 66
 Affects Coward 1 Chance 33


;------------------------------------------
Trigger BattleCoward_Routed_Teenager
 WhenToTest BattleGeneralRouted


 Condition IsGeneral
       and Trait Wantschool > 0     
       
 Affects Coward 1 Chance 66
       
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Coward_Withdraw_Before_Battle_Even_Odds
 WhenToTest PreBattleWithdrawal


 Condition IsGeneral
       and I_WithdrawsBeforeBattle
       and BattleOdds > 0.7
       and BattleOdds < 1.7


 Affects Coward 1 Chance 33

**b0Gia de Bodemloze** · January 23, 2022, 03:13 PM

Is this well known bug:
"01:46:53.467 [game.script] [always] ------ Qara_Khitai_Provoked = 1, terminate script
01:46:53.467 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_money> at line 55343 in mods/SSHIP_098/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
01:46:53.467 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <increment_kings_purse> at line 55344 in mods/SSHIP_098/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
01:46:53.467 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <historic_event> at line 55345 in mods/SSHIP_098/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
01:46:53.470 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/SSHIP_098/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/Qara_Khitai_Trade.tga (from: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War)
01:46:53.471 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/SSHIP_098/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/Qara_Khitai_Trade.tga.dds
01:46:53.471 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/SSHIP_098/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/Qara_Khitai_Trade.tga (from: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War)
01:46:53.471 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit."

**Jurand of Cracow** · January 23, 2022, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by b0Gia de Bodemloze

Is this well known bug:
"01:46:53.467 [game.script] [always] ------ Qara_Khitai_Provoked = 1, terminate script
01:46:53.467 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <add_money> at line 55343 in mods/SSHIP_098/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
01:46:53.467 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <increment_kings_purse> at line 55344 in mods/SSHIP_098/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
01:46:53.467 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <historic_event> at line 55345 in mods/SSHIP_098/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
01:46:53.470 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/SSHIP_098/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/Qara_Khitai_Trade.tga (from: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War)
01:46:53.471 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/SSHIP_098/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/Qara_Khitai_Trade.tga.dds
01:46:53.471 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/SSHIP_098/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/Qara_Khitai_Trade.tga (from: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War)
01:46:53.471 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit."

No, it's not.

the relevant code is:

if I_EventCounter Qara_Khitai_Provoked = 1 log ------ Qara_Khitai_Provoked = 1, terminate script
add_money turks -7500
increment_kings_purse turks 250
historic_event Qara_Khitai_Trade
terminate_monitor
end_if

so the text could have been a problem, but I don't think so. Only if the special characters are not allowed, but I think they're...

{QARA_KHITAI_TRADE_BODY}\n\nThe Qara Khitai empire was established by Yelü Dashi, who led nomadic Khitans west by way of Mongolia after the collapse of the Liao dynasty. The Khitans conquered Kashgar, Khotan, and Beshbalik, before defeating the Western Kara-Khanid Khanate at Khujand in 1137, eventually leading to their control over the Fergana Valley. However, their warlike ways have been quelled by the wise rulers of the Seljuks, who convinced the Khitans to live and trade peacefully. \n\n\nAs a token of this trade relationship, the Seljuk Empire gains an increase in Kings Purse by 250.
{QARA_KHITAI_TRADE_TITLE}Qara Khitai in Mā Warāʾan-Nahr

or maybe this one is not allowed: ā ?

**b0Gia de Bodemloze** · January 24, 2022, 01:04 PM

I had a crash during a battle:

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**kostic** · January 25, 2022, 03:30 AM

@b0Gia de Bodemloze : Did you save before the battle ? Does the bug happen again if you start it again ?

**Domitianus93** · February 01, 2022, 08:25 AM

So guys, I hope I will get some help here.

I'm using the 0.97 patch H version, and I got used with the random CTDs, but I can't get rid of the fathal graphic error, happening randomly after and before a battle (it also happened with Stainless Steel)
I have MTW2 steam version, I installed the game in another directory as explained, I use Window 7 compatibility mode and I run the .exe(s) as an administrator. UAC is disabled.

I don't know what else I can do before just giving up.
I don't know if it helps but running another mod as Bellum Crucis, didn't give me a single fathal graphic error. So, is there something I didn't do?

**Macaras** · February 01, 2022, 09:18 AM

1. Better if you download 0.98 (newer and more stable):
https://mega.nz/file/1eAH0CRB#4Izrcq...94A0PTB8kx4XO4
This link above is in the SSHIP download page...

2. Install LAA patch that should fix the after battle ctd's.

Hopefully this will help..

**Domitianus93** · February 01, 2022, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Macaras

1. Better if you download 0.98 (newer and more stable):
https://mega.nz/file/1eAH0CRB#4Izrcq...94A0PTB8kx4XO4
This link above is in the SSHIP download page...

2. Install LAA patch that should fix the after battle ctd's.

Hopefully this will help..

Hello Macaras, thanks for your help.
just one question, what is LAA patch and where can I find it?

**Macaras** · February 01, 2022, 01:53 PM

So its Large Address Aware patch, it allows to use more memory for old programs on modern computers. If you type in google "LAA patch 4 GB" you will have some different options (I personaly used ntcore). We posted it also somewhere in the forum, i don't remember where though.

**Domitianus93** · February 01, 2022, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Macaras

So its Large Address Aware patch, it allows to use more memory for old programs on modern computers. If you type in google "LAA patch 4 GB" you will have some different options (I personaly used ntcore). We posted it also somewhere in the forum, i don't remember where though.

Thanks!
I actually solved the matter!

But now I have another problem. I downloaded the 0.98 version as you suggested. I unziped the folder SSHIP_098 in the mods folder and I double clicked on the launcher but now the game starts in a little window and I don't know how to play fullscreen...

**Jurand of Cracow** · February 01, 2022, 03:27 PM

open configuration.cfg
and change these parameters:
borderless_window =false
windowed =false

you may also consider changing both resolutions to 1920 x 1080.

**Domitianus93** · February 01, 2022, 05:07 PM

Thanks to everyone, I actually solved all my troubles. And the mod seems to run very smoothly so far.

**minhnd6789** · February 02, 2022, 04:12 AM

I have one question, friends.

What is different between playing "Run as Administration mode" and "Without Administration mode"?
I have tested the two ways, but cannot find any difference.

I notice that my game on Without Administration mode is more stable with lesser CTD than the Run as Administration.

**Jurand of Cracow** · February 02, 2022, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by minhnd6789

I have one question, friends.

What is different between playing "Run as Administration mode" and "Without Administration mode"?
I have tested the two ways, but cannot find any difference.

I notice that my game on Without Administration mode is more stable with lesser CTD than the Run as Administration.

I don't see any difference in practice. Maybe there're specifica instances, but I don't know them.

**Ol_Knife_Ears** · February 02, 2022, 07:14 AM

This is a test post for my side-project of fixing up any spelling or grammatical errors. I'm only posting three this time to make sure I'm following JoC's directions properly.

What I did: unless I misunderstood directions, JoC wanted me to post the corrected text within the bounds of its code line. So all I did was copy the code line right out of the text file, and alter only the text as needed.

Following three examples are located in data/text/export_vnvs.txt

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I posted the original / corrected versions for comparison. If you just want the corrected versions, let me know. Or if you also want small explanations / justifications for each change, I can include those as well.

**Jurand of Cracow** · February 03, 2022, 02:21 AM

that's very good, very useful.
You're probably making those changes in the export_ancillaries.txt. Maybe you could make those changes and then upload the file here? I'd then download it, use WinMerge and transpose your changes into the mod files.
cheers
JoC

**Ol_Knife_Ears** · February 03, 2022, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow

You're probably making those changes in the export_ancillaries.txt.

I have not looked at ancillaries and titles yet, but if I end up making changes in that file I will be sure to provide the necessary files. So far I've been working my way through unit descriptions, traits, and building descriptions.

Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow

Maybe you could make those changes and then upload the file here? I'd then download it, use WinMerge and transpose your changes into the mod files.

That sounds like the most efficient way to do it. I will change the text in the files themselves and then upload them. I will also include a separate text file that lists all changes that I've made, just as a helpful reference.

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