SSHIP - General Discussion

**Nemesis2345** · August 18, 2020, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by SteamedTang

Hello,
I've just joined the forum but I've been playing for quite some time. I really enjoy the mod and have spent many hours playing it. I've currently got version 0.9.6 and my generals seem to get annoying traits way too frequently. Particularly Deranged, Hypochondriac... etc. Is there a way I can avoid having my generals receive these traits?

Hello and welcome , glad you enjoy the mod. The traits are indeed bugged but they were fixed in the upcoming 0.9.7 by Jurand of Cracow and the version should release very soon from what i heard. Stay tuned and thanks again for the kind words!

**Greyfoot** · August 19, 2020, 02:02 AM

Guys, I am not sure of this is the right topic to ask these questions so feel free to move my post if not.

First of all, great mod, been playing for a while now and since I used to play Byg's a lot back in the days, due to similarities and difficulty I enjoy it a lot. Really shows that a lot of love went into this.

Now what always bugged me about the title is the relations/reputation mechanics of the game. Sacking a backwater city or executing/ransoming prisoners by a regular warlord/general results in a global relations/rep hit even if said city and army belongs to a different faith. It simply shouldn't be the case. I know that global standing penalty is fairly easy to mod out for these events and I just did so, leaving them in place only for the actions of the FL.

However any values for reputation hit for said actions I did not find. Could anyone point me in the right direction?

The other diplomatic penalty that is somewhat uncalled for is being at war with a faction. As we are aware war also gives a global hit every turn and to mitigate it we need alliances.
I get it that the AI needs a reason to go to war with the player but why would say Hungary or the Seljuks care if England or France is at war with each other?

**Jurand of Cracow** · August 19, 2020, 04:13 AM

I was a big fan of BGR and I think we're taking the best of this submod into SSHIP.

Yeah, you're right that the reputation is not calibrated in the best way... Unfortunately, we were able recently to implement only one change in the system:

{INFO_SPHERES_OF_INFLUENCE_TITLE}Spheres of influence
{INFO_SPHERES_OF_INFLUENCE_BODY}Taking an enemy settlement makes usually your rivals angry - and you losing reputation. However, there are certain provinces that are perceived to be "yours" by default. Conquering such provinces (or more often: recapturing) is seen as legitimate and you won't lose reputation. These provinces are highlighted with darker colour in the map in the faction panel. Bear in mind that there may be some special settlements that conqests spark ire of particular interested faction, irrespective from the sphere of influence mechanism.

Lifth has made nice maps for the player to get which provinces are covered.

However, the rest of the system is as it was in 092 and we are aware of its deficiencies...

{INFO_TECHNICAL_NOT_FINISHED_BODY} This version of the SSHIP (0.9.7) is quite fleshed out and (hopefully) contains very few bugs prompting CTDs. Your experience from playing should be better than the versions 0.9.6 or 0.9.2. However, there are some areas that could be improved:\n* some factions may be very weak financially at the beginning of the game and playing them may be frustrating at higher difficulties.\n* some stats of the units need further balancing.\n* the descriptions of many units may be out of step with the current characteristics (they're mostly from SS6.4).\n* some traits do need more work to function in a perfect way.\n* the interplay between generals' loyalty and the FL authority needs to be balanced so that it leads to desertion and usurpation (for now it's quite forgiving for the player).\n* the civil strife and the civil war systems work in an imperfect way (eg. the usurper trait may linger on the character very long).\n* the reputation of the faction is likely to drop fast (even though it should be better now as the system has been improved - you'll learn about spheres of influence in a pop-out window).\n* the Papal State faction is very aggressive and is actively conquering territories around, what is unhistorical.\n* the antipope trait appears often on cardinals (you should not bother for it does not have much impact on the gameplay).\n* many Provincial Titles (and other ancillaries) still need to be reviewed and adjusted.

**AProunds** · August 19, 2020, 12:50 PM

Just popping in here to say to thank the team for their dedication and continued efforts on SSHIP. Despite any small nitpicks I might have, this is probably the best medieval 2 experience you can get. Really excited for the release of 0.9.7 and further improvements

**SteamedTang** · August 19, 2020, 01:25 PM

Thank you for the welcome. I am looking forward to spending many hours playing this mod. The intricacies of it make it possible to replay it again and again.

**Greyfoot** · August 19, 2020, 04:33 PM

Conquering cities and castles is not much of a problem for me and it's handled fairly well as far as I see it. I am more annoyed with sacking and ransoming/executing prisoners and how the player global standing takes a hit every time making diplomacy hard after a while.

It is fairly well understood and described in one of the files(events.descr I think)so I can commented them out but it requires a new game to take effect.

I could not however find any entries about reputation as it might be hard coded?

**Jurand of Cracow** · August 19, 2020, 05:01 PM

I don't think reputation is hardcoded. I'm pretty sure you may tweak it a lot. But the most difficult thing is to foresee various situations that may emerge in the game.

We hope to provide much historical replayability with 097 :-)

**Dekhatres** · August 19, 2020, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Greyfoot

I could not however find any entries about reputation as it might be hard coded?

i believe reputation is handled by descr_faction_standing.txt

**Gigantus** · August 20, 2020, 12:25 AM

descr_faction_standing only handles relations between factions, not the global reputation. The latter will be hard coded.

**Esper** · August 23, 2020, 11:19 AM

Hi, wondering if the next update will fix mines cancelling randomly when building them?

**lequintal69** · August 23, 2020, 05:50 PM

hey

1- Had this mission from the assassins' guild, which penalty for failing was the possibility of getting someone from my faction killed.
I failed it and nothing happened. Lucky I guess.
Anyone ever got it ? and can confirm the possible punishment is working?