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    Ohio town's Korean War memorial under fire for blunders


    (Reuters) - An Ohio monument unveiled this week to Americans who fought and died in the Korean War has drawn calls for it to be replaced because of glaring omissions and historical inaccuracies including images from the Vietnam War and Desert Storm.The black granite slab at Ross County Veterans Memorial Park in Chillicothe, Ohio, has sparked criticism from some families of those killed in the 1950-1953 Korean War because names of locals who died in the fighting were left off a plaque honoring area war dead.
    Herman Strausbaugh, 81, a Korean War veteran who helped get the memorial built, said he wants to memorial to stay despite the complaints of "nit pickers."
    "It represents the people that went over there and fought. The idea was that we put up something about a war that was forgotten and now all of the sudden, it is remembered," Strausbaugh told Reuters.
    Among the other mistakes are images of fighter jets introduced in the 1970s flying over soldiers from the Vietnam War standing near a tank introduced in the 1980s that is rolling toward soldiers who look like they are from the Desert Storm campaign of the early 1990s, military historians have said.
    Production was outsourced to India, where imaging was done and sent to the veterans group in Ohio before the engravings were made. Strausbaugh said the committee members did not notice the inaccuracies when they saw an image of the planned memorial.
    "It was made out of black granite. It was just beautiful," he told Reuters by telephone.
    For some, the biggest gaffe was omitting names of those who died in fighting.
    "My family was insulted on the day it was unveiled," said Tina Kutschbach, whose uncle John E. Kutschbach was fatally wounded in 1953 by a grenade in fighting on the Korea peninsula.
    He died a few days later at a military hospital in Japan and was buried less than a mile away from the new monument.
    Kutschbach's name was one of a half dozen left off the list of 18 on the plaque, she said.
    Strausbaugh said the veterans committee used a list of war dead provided by the Department of Defense, but Kutschbach said the names of those killed from the era can be found in a local library and have been known for 60 years.
    "It is astonishing that veterans committee did not listen to warnings of inaccuracies or gather easily available information before putting up something that is shameful," she said.


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    They outsourced to India? Really they could not have a found local Artist(s) or Designer(s) would likely have don it for free if they had any relative or personal contact with the war. In any case its kind of horrid it looks a cheap bit of Photoshop work - no soul at all.
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    The real problem isn't outsourced to India, as hilarious as that is. Its that someone didn't do a proof of some sort prior, OR approved of it. Generally with something like this there would be a "here is the layout" "here is whats on the plaque". Its quite possible and I'd say probable that someone stateside approved that monstrosity.

    I will blame... Herman Strausbaugh, 81, a Korean War veteran who helped get the memorial built, said he wants to memorial to stay despite the complaints of "nit pickers." This guy.

    Doing a bit more reading, yep it was the Veterans Committee that screwed this up. India did the images, but they approved them, and you can't blame some guy in India for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    The real problem isn't outsourced to India, as hilarious as that is. Its that someone didn't do a proof of some sort prior, OR approved of it. Generally with something like this there would be a "here is the layout" "here is whats on the plaque". Its quite possible and I'd say probable that someone stateside approved that monstrosity.

    I will blame... Herman Strausbaugh, 81, a Korean War veteran who helped get the memorial built, said he wants to memorial to stay despite the complaints of "nit pickers." This guy.

    Doing a bit more reading, yep it was the Veterans Committee that screwed this up. India did the images, but they approved them, and you can't blame some guy in India for this.
    I agree the Committee screwed but I thing the Indian Photoshop guy/gal deserves a little blame he or she just mailed it in and did not even bother with 10 minutes of Google time to get correct images. That should have been detected, but it remains shoddy work to begin with. Of course it could be the same old problem of the committee not communicating effectively someplace all around the globe. I would wounder if the designer had had or got a very good grasp of what was being asked. Also
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    Note. They omitted names of those who died in the fighting.
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    Check out the F-16s as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post

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    Is it not more lovable? Do people actually remember Korean War?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AqD View Post
    Is it not more lovable? Do people actually remember Korean War?
    Let me put it this way. Washington DC's Korean War memorial was built before it's World War II memorial. Decades before.

    And Phier, I'm not exactly trying to post blame. My one comment is more the traditional business joke, for the record.
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    You want irony?

    The Martin Luther King memorial was outsourced to the PRC.
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