Sharp increase in EU migrant number this year, so far!!

[hellheaven1987]

Most are illegal, unskilled immigrants, why I am not surprised?

There has been a significant rise in the numbers of migrants reaching Europe in recent months, the BBC has learned.

The number of people attempting the dangerous sea crossing from North Africa to Italy has risen sharply, says Frontex, the EU border agency.

From January to April, 42,000 migrants were detected on these routes, with 25,650 of these crossing from Libya.

Combined with seven other less busy routes, the total figure for this year is probably now about 60,000.

On Wednesday, the Italian government said the number of refugees and other migrants reaching its shores had soared to more than 39,000.

The total for 2014 so far is more than the equivalent period in 2011, the year of the Arab Spring, which eventually saw 140,000 make clandestine crossings into Europe.

"If the current trends continue, and with the summer months approaching, there is a strong likelihood the numbers will increase further," says Gil Arias Fernandez, Frontex's Deputy Executive Director.

At least a third of the latest arrivals are Syrians, fleeing that country's civil war.

But other significant numbers are coming from Afghanistan and Eritrea.

In Calais, where the French authorities this week demolished two main squatter camps, the BBC found migrants from a host of countries, from West Africa to Bangladesh, with large groups from Iran and Pakistan's restive tribal areas.

Experts say the latest numbers are not surprising, after relatively low levels of migration in the early months of 2013.

"The main route through Libya was closed for so long that people in sub-Saharan countries have been waiting for a couple of years," says Franck Duvell, associate professor at the Centre on Migration, Policy, and Society at the University of Oxford.

"So the numbers have been building up and people were waiting for the very first opportunity to move," he says.

"I'm not sure this implies that we are going to see ever-more people arriving in the EU over the next couple of months. We've got to wait and see."

Much depends on the chaotic political and security situation in Libya, where a BBC team has recently seen evidence that large numbers of migrants are still waiting to cross. Some estimates put the figure as high as 300,000.

Italy complains that since last October, when it launched its "Mare Nostrum" [Our Sea] rescue operation, the cost of patrolling its patch of the Mediterranean has risen to 300,000 euros (£24,200: $408,000) a day.

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Now what? Since most come from sea mine field and trench certainly are out of question; may be time to deploy carriers for "patrolling" the sea?

[Earl Dibbles Jr]

Good to see that the EU is copying what my great country is doing.

[Aru]

Hire them to stand on the beaches and yell "We don't want you!" in many languages.

[fkizz]

Well at least the syrian civil war refuges have a very strong reason. immigration can be controversial depending on scenario, but war refuges always give me a feel

[Roma_Victrix]

There's an argument to be made about limiting immigration and an argument for immigration, since healthy economies need at least some immigration to import necessary highly-trained workers in some sectors. However, even if you are against immigration in general, no one should refuse someone who is fleeing from warfare. War refugees hold a different status altogether. They basically can't go back home, because being forced to do so would be a virtual death sentence for them and their family in some cases.

[ahawkTW]

There's an argument to be made about limiting immigration and an argument for immigration, since healthy economies need at least some immigration to import necessary highly-trained workers in some sectors. However, even if you are against immigration in general, no one should refuse someone who is fleeing from warfare. War refugees hold a different status altogether. They basically can't go back home, because being forced to do so would be a virtual death sentence for them and their family in some cases.

Immigration is a controversial topic, and there are many factors that go into letting a horde of people into your country. My city in the US for instance has gotten a lot of refugees from Bosnia ever since the 1990s.

However, it's worth mentioning that a lot of immigrants from war-torn countries are going to be very poor and will be reduced to begging or stealing. It would be hard for them to find jobs considering they may not speak the language, and there is already a hard time finding jobs for skilled laborers. And if they only come to compete for jobs that could be done by a native worker, then they are of no use to the host country, and cannot be accepted. The last thing countries with a lack of jobs need is a larger pool of workers.

[hellheaven1987]

They basically can't go back home, because being forced to do so would be a virtual death sentence for them and their family in some cases.

Problem solves.

[AqD]

Most are illegal, unskilled immigrants, why I am not surprised?

But illegal and unskilled immigrants from China to USA always become successful after a few generations of hard working and good education. It's not always negative.

[Knight of Heaven]

But illegal and unskilled immigrants from China to USA always become successful after a few generations of hard working and good education. It's not always negative.

Good one. take that hellheaven

[hellheaven1987]

But illegal and unskilled immigrants from China to USA always become successful after a few generations of hard working and good education. It's not always negative.

Right, because Europe is like US - or better, Old World is like New World...

[Edelfred]

but the rate of modern immigration is high enough not allowing to integrate all .
That is why immigrant tribal laws like vendeta,honor killings, gang wars take over .
As Aristoteles has said those ,who have not worked hard enough to establish working state in their home country will only bring anti-democratic immature elements into the democratic countries they migrate to .

[AqD]

but the rate of modern immigration is high enough not allowing to integrate all .
That is why immigrant tribal laws like vendeta,honor killings, gang wars take over .
As Aristoteles has said those ,who have not worked hard enough to establish working state in their home country will only bring anti-democratic immature elements into the democratic countries they migrate to .

But Aristoteles is well-known to be xenophobic, like most of ancient Greeks. The only anti-democratic immature element at their time is ignorance, more likely to happen on natives who get used to good and old functional democracy than those who just earn it.

Right, because Europe is like US - or better, Old World is like New World...

Mexicans did the same in US I heard. I wonder why. Perhaps they make it too easy?

[[Tar]Naru33]

However, even if you are against immigration in general, no one should refuse someone who is fleeing from warfare. War refugees hold a different status altogether. They basically can't go back home, because being forced to do so would be a virtual death sentence for them and their family in some cases.

I disagree, it should depend on the hosting country's situation.

But illegal and unskilled immigrants from China to USA always become successful after a few generations of hard working and good education. It's not always negative.

lol, because the few successful ones mean we should let in a lot of illegal and unskilled immigrants? I am all go for legal immigration, but illegal immigration should not be allowed.

But Aristoteles is well-known to be xenophobic, like most of ancient Greeks. The only anti-democratic immature element at their time is ignorance, more likely to happen on natives who get used to good and old functional democracy than those who just earn it.

Is this suppose to discredit him? lol

I agree that those who get too used to a functional system starts to abuse it, but how do most illegal immigrants "earn" their stay?

[pajomife]

This seems more a invasion,Europe don't need and don't want this people but is to soft to do something,and go to the middle of sea to be sure they all come here.
That's exactly like the end of roman empire,they come in wages,people allow they to impose some of their rules,because we are to much weak,and in few years we will lose all our identity,besides we are losing our money because we have to sustain this inutile people.

[justicar5]

This seems more a invasion,Europe don't need and don't want this people but is to soft to do something,and go to the middle of sea to be sure they all come here.
That's exactly like the end of roman empire,they come in wages,people allow they to impose some of their rules,because we are to much weak,and in few years we will lose all our identity,besides we are losing our money because we have to sustain this inutile people.

I didn't notice these immigrants being armed to the teeth and sacking cities....

[Aymer de Valence]

This seems more a invasion,Europe don't need and don't want this people but is to soft to do something,and go to the middle of sea to be sure they all come here.
That's exactly like the end of roman empire,they come in wages,people allow they to impose some of their rules,because we are to much weak,and in few years we will lose all our identity,besides we are losing our money because we have to sustain this inutile people.

It is an invasion. Europe was too much of a perfect place to live to allow the white man to live alone in prosperity amongst his inventions....

[Costin_Razvan]

It's not surprising. Libya is going to , Syria is a hell hole and many arab states have huge stability issues.

That said I think it's time we shut down illegal immigration. Refugees are one thing but these people aren't refugees, except the Syrians but there's not that many of them.

[pajomife]

They will do it after being integrated.But at least some European are seeing that this can't continue like untill now ,there was a limit,Europe isn't that rich and haven't as much employees to receive all the world indigents.

[Knight of Heaven]

They will do it after being integrated.But at least some European are seeing that this can't continue like untill now ,there was a limit,Europe isn't that rich and haven't as much employees to receive all the world indigents.

Yeah right that or they will go to work in jobs that the native population wont work. You know jobs, badly payed, allmost explotation. Just like in Portugal with the Ucranians, the Brazilians, and now the Nepalese. For example in the area of Agriculture.

[justicar5]

They will do it after being integrated.But at least some European are seeing that this can't continue like untill now ,there was a limit,Europe isn't that rich and haven't as much employees to receive all the world indigents.

Evidence. Provide some. Because the most dangerous terrorists in the EU atm are separatists. https://www.europol.europa.eu/conten...nd-report-2014