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    Are we all racist now?

    As a survey of British social attitudes reveals a shocking upturn in prejudice, Allison Pearson argues that the political elite’s desire to advance multiculturalism with mass immigration has backfired

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...acist-now.html

    As shell-shocked politicians from the main parties struggle to discern the causes of Ukip’s deafening electoral success, here’s a tip: look in the mirror, chaps! It is politicians, not the British people, who are to blame for a resurgence in racism; politicians who have ignored public opinion and created the conditions in which resentments fester and grow. Specifically, though not exclusively, it is New Labour who welcomed workers from the new, accession countries of the EU at a time when countries such as France and Germany wisely exercised their right to keep them out for another seven years. According to Jack Straw, this was a “spectacular” error. And Jack should know, because he was Home Secretary at the time.
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    Please explain why you think they want to 'advance multiculturalism' without mentioning lizardmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    Please explain why you think they want to 'advance multiculturalism' without mentioning lizardmen.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-adviser.html

    "Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.
    "I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date."
    Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.

    MUST BE A CONSPIRACY..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe's Company View Post
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-adviser.html

    "Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.
    "I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date."
    Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.

    MUST BE A CONSPIRACY..
    Looks like someone (at least you) is swallowing political BS whole to me.

    Immigration of poor people from poorer countries than our own is most likely about making the middle and upper classes richer while forcing the working class to accept lower wages.

    Why muddy the waters with BS about multiculturalism? Because you support these dodgy politicians is the only answer that springs to mind if you haven't simply been fooled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    Looks like someone (at least you) is swallowing political BS whole to me.

    Immigration of poor people from poorer countries than our own is most likely about making the middle and upper classes richer while forcing the working class to accept lower wages.

    Why muddy the waters with BS about multiculturalism? Because you support these dodgy politicians is the only answer that springs to mind if you haven't simply been fooled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe's Company View Post
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    Shame he didn't choke it a few months back, I for one wouldn't miss him.
    Thing is this lost credibility with use of the words 'Traitor'. The state is there for the individual, not the other way around. Also it amused me about the bit about 'breeding the British out of existence' for various historical reasons.

    But saying that, any political campaign.statement on either side that ever tries to enforce/encourage who a person has sex with, on either side is an abominable view to have.

    I would question though the actuality of the words. Do you have some concrete sources mate? I'm questioning the creator of said placard as they all see a bit too sensationalist.
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    Shame he didn't choke it a few months back, I for one wouldn't miss him.
    What 'British Race' is he betraying? The Welsh, Irish and Cornish as they are closest to the original Britons? Or the multi-cultural mix of nations, Jutes, Celts, Saxons, Italians, Gauls, hell their are graves of Syrians in the uk from the time of the conquest etc etc that has been going on since Roman times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe's Company View Post
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    Shame he didn't choke it a few months back, I for one wouldn't miss him.
    Race is an relevance. There are far more important things. See my sig for instance.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/f...rence.ukcrime4 The actual article. He was writing after the murder of Stephan Lawrence, and the quotes in the above have been taken wildly out of context.
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    Shame he didn't choke it a few months back, I for one wouldn't miss him.
    Who wrote that ? You? .... I guess so....

    Apparently you think having children with non-whites is treachery - Thanks for cutting to the chase.

    So the thread is actually about the 'horrors' of love and togetherness as experienced by a racist.

    Funny how pitiful and disgusting are often combined, thanks for another example.

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    Funny how London, one of the most diverse cities on the planet is less racist than the rest of the country. It is also the most prosperous, by a mile. I myself blame racism on people being, erm.. racist. People should either take pride in that, or take responsibility for it, as all those closet racists in UKIP and others do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Funny how London, one of the most diverse cities on the palnet is less racist than the rest of the country. It is also the most prosperous, by a mile. I myself blame racism on people being, erm.. racist. People should either take pride in that, or take responsibility for it, as all those closet racists in UKIP and others do not.
    Considering London now has a minority of English people it isn't very surprising.
    But I'm sure in parts of Working Class East London these results would be higher.

    Oh, actually Mongrel.. Buckinghamshire is the most prosperous area in UK. Was that another lefty fib?
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    Lefty fibs crippled the uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Funny how London, one of the most diverse cities on the planet is less racist than the rest of the country. It is also the most prosperous, by a mile. I myself blame racism on people being, erm.. racist. People should either take pride in that, or take responsibility for it, as all those closet racists in UKIP and others do not.
    London being more prosperous than the rest of the country is not down simple to immigration.

    That being said the whole immigration debate in this country is a disgraceful distraction that occurs in every country every time there are difficult economic times. There is no exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    London being more prosperous than the rest of the country is not down simple to immigration.

    That being said the whole immigration debate in this country is a disgraceful distraction that occurs in every country every time there are difficult economic times. There is no exception.
    You still living in like 2009?
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/...sitive-surveys

    Immigration has been an issue for as long as I can remember, this recent upsurge in anger hasn't just appeared outta nowhere it's been brewing for decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe's Company View Post
    You still living in like 2009?
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/...sitive-surveys

    Immigration has been an issue for as long as I can remember, this recent upsurge in anger hasn't just appeared outta nowhere it's been brewing for decades.
    uhm what? the link disproves me, how?

    it is common knowledge that London came out of recession within a year of the financial crisis occuring, but how does that show that what i said is untrue?

    In fact both points u make seem only to support me? Immigration is an issue that always occurs, but only becomes a strong point of debate when times are tough economically.

    There is more to a country than London, Sharpe. and UKIP dont make much inroads into London.

    So yea, immigration isnt such a point of contention in the Capital as u seem to think it is.
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    Wales also has an English minority. Are you saying that white Europeans and other races are less racist. That is erm.... racist.

    I did say one of the, but there again, living in London hasn't impaired my understanding of English.
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    Syrian rebel commander Brigadier-General Abdulellah al-Basheer has recently stated that, almost two out of three of members of the Rebel group ISIS, who are bent on creating an Islamic state in the war-torn country and Iraq, are foreign born. Of these, more than a third are British citizens , who probably number over 600. This group is so extreme that it has even been denounced by Al Qaeda.
    http://www.vice.com/vice-news/an-int...hters-in-syria
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    An export of multicultural Britain today you could say. Enriching our society, I don't think so!!. I'm not saying that these people are representitive of the connmmunities in which they live. But the existance of such violent undesirable elements in British society is not wanted and should not be tolerated. Their presence in Syria, to create a radical muslim state and ultimately take the conflict back to Britain, is nothing short of a a national disgrace!! and yet our politicians remain silent on the matter.

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    Good Post Caratacus.



    Euro crisis worsens and Spanish flock to Britain - UK now a place of economic exile for mainland Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caratacus View Post
    Syrian rebel commander Brigadier-General Abdulellah al-Basheer has recently stated that, almost two out of three of members of the Rebel group ISIS, who are bent on creating an Islamic state in the war-torn country and Iraq, are foreign born. Of these, more than a third are British citizens , who probably number over 600. This group is so extreme that it has even been denounced by Al Qaeda.
    http://www.vice.com/vice-news/an-int...hters-in-syria
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    An export of multicultural Britain today you could say. Enriching our society, I don't think so!!. I'm not saying that these people are representitive of the connmmunities in which they live. But the existance of such violent undesirable elements in British society is not wanted and should not be tolerated. Their presence in Syria, to create a radical muslim state and ultimately take the conflict back to Britain, is nothing short of a a national disgrace!! and yet our politicians remain silent on the matter.
    At yet somehow:

    - We want them to stay in Britain rather than go out there and get killed( I understand that the attition rate is quite high.

    - These were the very kinds people Cameron wanted to support militarily (to overthrow Assad) before Parliament sensible put a stop to it.

    - Very much the equivalent of those who fought for Communismm and Fascism either side of the Spanish Civil War.

    Your last point doesn't make sense as British policy is to arrest and convict people who have either gone to Syria or plan to do so. Indeed one returnee, one Mashudur Choudhury has been convicted of being a member of one such group just recently. Why are you not aware of this?

    Your final rant has absolutely no basis in fact.
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