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    Last week, Michelle Obama made headlines when she exhorted graduating high schoolers in a commencement address to monitor their families for politically incorrect thoughts and behaviors.

    To one journalist, this was more than an off-hand comment made by the first lady. In the opinion of Cheryl Chumley, a reporter for The Washington Times and the author of “Police State USA,” Michelle Obama’s remark reflects a growing trend in America to target and attack individuals for committing “thought crime.”

    “Michelle Obama’s push for kids around the nation to monitor their family members for perceived racist comments is just another way the government seeks to inject itself into an area it doesn’t really belong — the American home,” Chumley told The Daily Caller Monday.

    “Having the first lady wag her finger at us and send America’s youth on some sort of quest to scour the homes and backyards of our nation’s families for any mention of a racist joke, slur or slight is nanny-governance run amok — something that belongs in a George Orwell novel, not the White House, Chumley said.”

    Chumley sees a troubling growth of America’s most powerful political figures now singling out private individuals for their beliefs, and using government agencies and public denunciations to intimidate opponents into silence.

    “Harry Reid attacking the Koch brothers for the crime of giving money to conservative causes is just as bad. President Obama, Joe Biden and the entire cast of the White House, for slamming lawful gun owners for exercising their Second Amendment rights, and for trying to drum up emotional-fueled support to ram through gun control,” Chumley listed off. “The IRS targeting of tea party and patriotic non-profits and our nation’s highest law enforcement official, Eric Holder stonewalling on a special prosecutor appointment — does it get any more police state than that?”

    The Washington Times reporter sees the creation of hate crime laws as one of the first steps in our country’s history in the direction of attacking unpopular and politically incorrect thoughts in America.

    “What comes to mind when I think of the genesis for this growing trend of government to control Americans’ speech, and by extension, thoughts, is when the notion of hate crime was brought into our criminal prosecution system — as if acts of violence that are committed because of racial divides deserve a different category of ‘extra-special bad,’” Chumley stated.

    “Political correctness and pandering politicians have fueled this narrative in recent years. Anybody who throws the race card on a regular basis — think Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, Harry Reid — is guilty to a certain degree of clamping down on free speech, and in turn, making Americans even wary of what they think.”

    And it’s not just the government enforcing this new speech code, in Chumley’s opinion — private companies are just as complicit in regulating speech that’s deemed offensive by the government and media.

    “Private companies, like A&E with the “Duck Dynasty” debacle, are getting just as bad as government when it comes to clamping down on free speech, especially when religious views are involved — or, of late, the gay rights movement,” Chumley stated. “I’m all for businesses reacting to free market pressures from their customer base — but really, they need to show a little more spine.”

    In Chumley’s opinion, Americans growing a backbone and holding firm to their beliefs would be enough to resist this apparent infringement on individual rights.

    “When Dan Cathy, president of Chick-fil-A, stood strong in the face of gay rights activists, you didn’t see his business crumble and fold. Rather, you saw those who believe in freedom of speech rise up and stand in Chick-fil-A lines across the nation to support him,” the “Police State USA” author stated. “The only answer is to refuse to be cowed. We’re a nation that’s founded on the belief that rights come from God, not government.”
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    S-so, is this bad? To introduce political correctness in the Land of Freedom is not a bad thing right?
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    and the author of “Police State USA,”
    stopped reading there.

    also i have no idea how you got to the thread title based on some advice in a high-school commencement speech by the first lady to educate the more moronic members of their family (i'm reading between the lines there).
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    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    also i have no idea how you got to the thread title based on some advice in a high-school commencement speech by the first lady to educate the more moronic members of their family (i'm reading between the lines there).
    Are you suggesting highly educated people cannot be racists too?
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    there are morons with degrees. i'm not using the term 'educate' in the way you're thinking.

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    I don't see anything wrong with her speech. "Tell your racist grandpa to shut the up."

    The government isn't inserting itself anywhere... jesus. "Police State USA"? More like "I made a speech for a high school so we're a tyrannical dictatorship now lol".

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    I don't see anything wrong with her speech. "Tell your racist grandpa to shut the up."
    B-but your grandpa has the freedom to express his thought/opinion, no?
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    B-but your grandpa has the freedom to express his thought/opinion, no?
    And I have a right to respond to Grandpa. Get the hell over it.
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    B-but your grandpa has the freedom to express his thought/opinion, no?
    I will excercise my "right" to free speech and tell racist grandpa to shut the feck up. Funny how these nutjobs only want the freedom to do offensive or antisocial things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    I willk excercise my "right" to free speech and tell racist grandpa to shut the feck up. Funny how these nutjobs only want the freedom to do offensive or antisocial things.
    I agree. Some people forget freedom of speech cuts both ways. You have the right to say stupid , and I have the right to call you a dumbass (off TWC of course).

    Same with private companies being able to fire people who cause a negative image. Some people support them when they fire someone who says something they fundamentally disagree with. But when they fire someone the nutjobs agree with they claim they are violating his free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    B-but your grandpa has the freedom to express his thought/opinion, no?

    and YOU have the power to tell him to stuff a chainsaw in his pants and rodeo, as long as the STATE isn't doing it, it is not an infringement of freedom of speech.

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    Wow, an article by the Daily Caller. The same Daily Caller known for being leaning right-wing in its news reporting.

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    Default Re: Is US starting to target politically incorrect thoughts?

    Starting to target politically incorrect thoughts? This has been going on for at least 30 years. Its certainly nothing new. Even how it is reported is nothing new, there is just more coverage.

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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ecognition-day

    The actual speech...

    All she said is racism is bad and you should fight to stop it. Not anything groundbreaking here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    stopped reading there.

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    And I stopped reading that there. I get nauseous seeing the ignorance demonstrated at Slate and Huff Post, but I stomach it in order to expose myself to what the Yahoos are talking about. Isn't it funny that we are all so certain that we know everything that we see ourselves little different from the self-delusion of the Houyhnhnms and the other side are the Yahoos? Good thing for thought police since right and wrong are clearly black and white and clearly delineated.
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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ecognition-day

    The actual speech...

    All she said is racism is bad and you should fight to stop it. Not anything groundbreaking here.
    Really? So she recognizes that those kids have grown up in diverse culture and they don't see racism or think about race, but she wants them to see it everywhere and hunt it down and destroy it because it is everywhere if they would just look for it correctly. I'm thinking our best hope for a color-blind society is for racists like Michelle Obama to STFU. Our grandpas fought in WWI, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq and wherever else our nation has asked them to sacrifice while Michelle has done NOTHING. But she wants those kids to "teach" their wisdom to their grandpas who have infinitely more knowledge, experience and proven character than those kids who would benefit best from knowing that is they who should be getting the lessons from their grandpas.

    Who is really the racist, Michelle or your grandpa? Michelle, who admitted that her husband getting elected in 2008 was the FIRST TIME in her life that she has ever been proud of her country, also claimed that she was a victim of racism at Princeton because the other students looked at her like she didn't belong there.

    I was in college at about the same time and I will never forget a black friend of mine at University of Virginia sharing his analysis of the state of black and white relations at the time. Terry said that the white man has conquered the frontiers, hunger, disease, fascism, communism and even the moon. In America, the white man has brought to his women and laid upon their feet a wealth and lifestyle that the world had never before imagined. And the white woman is paying him back by sleeping with all the black guys. Michelle's account doesn't add up with what was happening on college campuses at the time. It seems likely that they probably knew smarter white kids who were rejected and resented Michelle for being there as an Affirmative Action beneficiary at the expense of someone else's opportunities. Yeah mine is only supposition, but that racist brute also only offered supposition and can't read minds, so we don't know who is more accurate. My friend Terry was a smart guy, but he was the first to point out that he wouldn't have been accepted to UVA were it not for Affirmative Action.

    Almost forgot. Unless that Spanish speaking student that Michelle was speaking about knows how to fix the data models, repair the fudged conclusions and replace the omitted data points, the Global Warming Theory has no hope of overcoming the stain of corruption and manipulation that the researchers/salespeople have discredited what may or may not really be something with which we should concern ourselves.
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    I am sure as First Lady , Mrs Obama is also entitled to have an opinion on many matters. Given the history of the USA when it comes to race, it is perhaps not surprising that she may have an opinion on racism, just as some bigoted old coot would have theirs.
    Oh, she has opinions about race because she is a racist old coot.

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    So is it politically incorrect to suggest the US is becoming a police state?
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    No it doesn't.

    She said if you hear people say racist things draw upon your own experience and show them they are incorrect. She said racism is bad, a statement that has been echoed any every sane politician. Why does the far right seem to think freedom of speech is a one way street?

    By the way the speech was to Topeka:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v...tion_of_Topeka

    This is not thought crime, it's called being a decent human being.
    Disagree emphatically. She said more than that. She is trying to stir up racial divisiveness where none exists. That IS NOT a good human being.
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    Must the whackos come out of the woodwork and shoot spitballs at Michelle Obama every time she makes a speech and says something non-controversial, like "racism is bad" and such?

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    and the author of “Police State USA,”


    That's all you need to know

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    I am sure as First Lady , Mrs Obama is also entitled to have an opinion on many matters. Given the history of the USA when it comes to race, it is perhaps not surprising that she may have an opinion on racism, just as some bigoted old coot would have theirs.
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