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    Default Iranians are "the least" anti-Semitic people in Middle East!!

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    A perhaps surprising result emerged from a recent opinion poll by an international organisation that fights anti-Semitism - that Iranians are the least anti-Semitic people in the Middle East and North Africa (with the exclusion of Israel).

    According to the poll commissioned by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), Iranian respondents scored the lowest (56%) in terms of holding negative views about Jewish people, while in other countries of the region, the figure ranges from 69% in Turkey to 93% in the Palestinian territories.

    Iranian conservatives officially reject anti-Semitism, presenting themselves as "anti-Israel". Nevertheless, many Iranian state institutions - all under the control of associates of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei - use anti-Jewish propaganda.

    For example, Iran's state-run television networks and conservative media outlets have a record of denying, or downplaying the scale of, the Holocaust, blaming "influential Jews" for many of the world's problems and using crude anti-Jewish imagery.

    Iranian President Hassan Rouhani's predecessor, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, repeatedly used the issue of the Holocaust as a political tool against Israel, Iran's arch-foe, accusing Israel of exaggerating and manipulating it to gain international sympathy.

    About six million Jews were killed in the Nazi genocide, subsequently termed the Holocaust, during World War Two.

    On 6 May, Mohammad Javad Zarif, Iran's foreign minister, was summoned to the parliament by hard-line MPs who criticised him for having called the Holocaust a "tragedy" in an interview with a German television station.
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    That is... interesting but not surprising, since Persians have been acted more open mind than their Turks and Arabs neighbours throughout history. But still, perhaps that means Iran is not so bad than say, Saudi Arabia, as West tries to portray most time.
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    Fifty six percent to sixty nine percent is a matter of degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    Fifty six percent to sixty nine percent is a matter of degrees.
    It's just a matter of numbers too. Meaningless fractions! Irrelevant proportions!

    From the same study:

    Anti-Semites:
    Iran: 56%
    Greece: 69%

    Even though they are not a majority in most European nations anti-semites there are more likely to subscribe to such beliefs as a: "Global Jewish Banking Conspiracy" "Jews run the world" "Holocaust 'not that big of a deal'"

    Just another reason why it might not be a great idea to vote for your neighborhood right wing extremist party who harbors such ideas.

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    Heck, any percentage of Anti-Semitism, or bigotry in general, is something to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Heck, any percentage of Anti-Semitism, or bigotry in general, is something to worry about.
    Why?
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    Why?
    Really? That's something that needs to be asked? IIRC, you're from Taiwan, right? What if the US still had bigoted policies that curtailed Chinese immigration to the US and forced Chinese people to do backbreaking work on railroads? Do you not see a problem with that? Bigotry often creates the conditions for policies of ethnic discrimination and sometimes killing as the Jews became painfully aware during WWII or purges of Jewish communities in the Middle Ages.

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    Do you not see a problem with that?
    And what is the problem? If citizens of US think they don't like Chinese and want to restrict the Chinese migrants, why not? I need a better reason besides Golden Rule.
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    Why?
    Well gee lets think because last time we thought anti semitism wasn't that big a deal a country ended up trying to exterminate the race and went a good way towards it.

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    Well gee lets think because last time we thought anti semitism wasn't that big a deal a country ended up trying to exterminate the race and went a good way towards it.
    What irritates me, however, is the fallacious coupling or equivocating of anti-Semitism and criticism of the Israeli government and its actions. That I do not like one bit. The Holocaust was a human tragedy of epic proportion that shouldn't be used by the Israeli government as an avoid-all-criticism and get-out-of-jail-free card, especially in regards to their treatment of the Palestinians.

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    What irritates me, however, is the fallacious coupling or equivocating of anti-Semitism and criticism of the Israeli government and its actions. That I do not like one bit. The Holocaust was a human tragedy of epic proportion that shouldn't be used by the Israeli government as an avoid-all-criticism and get-out-of-jail-free card, especially in regards to their treatment of the Palestinians.
    Good job that isn't being debated.

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    Well gee lets think because last time we thought anti semitism wasn't that big a deal a country ended up trying to exterminate the race and went a good way towards it.
    And why it is bad? Consider human beings have been purposely trying to drive countless other species to extinction, why exterminate a human race suddenly is "bad"?
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    And why it is bad? Consider human beings have been purposely trying to drive countless other species to extinction, why exterminate a human race suddenly is "bad"?
    Morality, universal declaration of human rights and the common agreement that we would not let it happen again.

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    And why it is bad? Consider human beings have been purposely trying to drive countless other species to extinction, why exterminate a human race suddenly is "bad"?
    You honestly have to ask that question?! There are no human "races", we are all only human, from the Zulu people of South Africa to the Greenland Eskimos.
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    P-progressive?



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    That is... interesting but not surprising, since Persians have been acted more open mind than their Turks and Arabs neighbours throughout history. But still, perhaps that means Iran is not so bad than say, Saudi Arabia, as West tries to portray most time.
    you can poll the population all you want, it's what the government says and does that strongly paints the image.

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    you can poll the population all you want, it's what the government says and does that strongly paints the image.
    Do you want to say that what Iranian government says and does is all that matters in the eyes of the International Community?
    American, French, Israeli and British government's ILLEGAL aggression against the Syrian people, without any proof for chemical attacks in Douma, and without waiting for OPCW to conduct their investigation..
    Sons of *******, leave that poor, war torn country in peace.
    If you are a citizen of one of these countries, then DO NOT ask any help from me on these forums, since, in protest against this aggression by your governments, I do not provide assistance/help anymore.
    Let Syria be finally in peace.

    A video of false chemical attack in Douma, Syria, which led to Western illegal attacks.

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    Going by Lethal Weapon 4, that won't stop Chinese economic refugees from getting themselves smuggled in by the containerload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    Going by Lethal Weapon 4, that won't stop Chinese economic refugees from getting themselves smuggled in by the containerload.
    Oh man, you honestly have the best references.

    Well, Hellheaven, if not for the golden rule of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, how about maintaining normal, stable relations with other countries by not treating their citizens or people of their main national ethnic group like dirt?

    And for the record, the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 was in place (with severely limited immigration from China) until 1943.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roma_Victrix View Post
    Well, Hellheaven, if not for the golden rule of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, how about maintaining normal, stable relations with other countries by not treating their citizens or people of their main national ethnic group like dirt?
    What type of benefits you mean? Like average household income would raise up 10%? Cheaper price for goods? More jobs around? You know by claiming those "benefits" you also need to provide some evidences, preferable a list of number and chart, to show your claims may be true.

    That was why scientific methods were adopted in 17th Century.
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    What type of benefits you mean? Like average household income would raise up 10%? Cheaper price for goods? More jobs around? You know by claiming those "benefits" you also need to provide some evidences, preferable a list of number and chart, to show your claims may be true.

    That was why scientific methods were adopted in 17th Century.
    For God's sake man, we're humans, not robots, have a little empathy. Life isn't all about the bottom line and how much we can make a profit off of other people or exclude/discriminate them because they are seen as unprofitable.

    That being said, Wall Street could use another man like you. It sounds like you have the ethical outlook that will make you go far in that business.

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    For God's sake man, we're humans, not robots, have a little empathy. Life isn't all about the bottom line and how much we can make a profit off of other people or exclude/discriminate them because they are seen as unprofitable.
    Well, it is about how happy we can be, and earning profits is one quick way to gain happiness.

    I thought that is the teaching of Calvinism?

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    That being said, Wall Street could use another man like you. It sounds like you have the ethical outlook that will make you go far in that business.
    That probably explains why all my economy professors comment I should pursue an economy degree.
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