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    Bionic DEKA Arm, mind-controlled prosthetic, approved by FDA

    The Food and Drug Administration has approved a new type of bionic arm for amputees that promises an unprecedented level of control and mobility. The DEKA Arm, developed with funding from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), is controlled by electrical signals prompted by the contraction of muscles close to where the prosthesis is attached. Electrodes then send the signals to a computer processor that translates them into a specific movement or movements.

    "The DEKA Arm System may allow some people to perform more complex tasks than they can with current prostheses in a way that more closely resembles the natural motion of the arm," said Christy Foreman, the director of the Office of Device Evaluation at the FDA's Center for Devices and Radiological Health, in a press release.

    A 2008 study estimated that one in 190 Americans is living with the loss of an upper or lower limb. As of December 2013, more than 1,500 Americans had lost a leg or arm in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan. Those who suffered an amputation of the arm often end up wearing an artificial limb with a manual hook whose design hasn't changed much in decades.
    Clinical research showed that with use of the DEKA Arm, approximately 90 percent of participants were able to perform common household activities that they couldn't do with a traditional prosthetic, such as using keys and opening locks, preparing food, combing their hair, and using zippers.

    Roughly the same size as an average human's arm, the prosthesis can be configured for people with limb loss at the shoulder, the mid-upper or mid-lower arm. It cannot be used by people with limb loss at the elbow or wrist.

    In a "60 Minutes" interview in 2009, Dr. Geoffrey Ling, the leader of the project, told CBS News' Scott Pelley that when a human loses a hand -- an "incredibly complex" piece of machinery -- they lose something that separates us from other animals.

    "What nature provides us is extraordinary. The opposable thumb, the five finger independently moving, articulating fingers. It's fantastic what this does," Dr. Ling said.

    The team that was responsible for the creation of the DEKA arm also included Dean Kamen, who has invented dozens of medical devices as well as the Segway transportation system. However, after designing the arm -- altogether a tough task, Kamen admitted to Pelley -- they had some problems with getting the patients to accept it.

    "Immediately, we were shocked to learn, even just the hollow plastic shell that they wear when they're out and about, it sweats, and it hurts, and it irritates. And we came back and realized that if we build the world's best nine-pound arm, but nobody will wear it because 24 hours a day, or 12 hours a day, of wearing a nine-pound arm is going to be irritating, and frustrating, we said, 'We've got a way bigger problem here,'" Kamen said in the 2009 interview.

    Fred Downs, then the national director of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs' prosthetics division, had lost his arm when he stepped on a land mine in Vietnam. Before exchanging his hook to try out the DEKA Arm, he had admitted that he was a bit skeptical.

    However, after ten hours of practicing, he was able to pick up a soda bottle. He told Pelley how good it felt to move "his" arm again. "It felt like my arm. It was me," he remarked.

    "The feeling is hard to describe. For the first time in 40 years, my left hand did this. I almost choke up saying it now. It was just -- it was such an amazing feeling. I was 23 years old the last time I did that," Downs said in the interview.

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    This is both awesome and scary. Awesome because modern science is cool and people disabled from birth or injury now have a chance to lead more convenient, productive, sociable, healthier lives. Scary because holy crap, if we can do this, what else is DARPA in the Department of Defense working on behind closed doors? I'm guessing the new line of Tony Stark Iron Man suits.

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    You'd hate to lose all that time and money that went into training your basic grunt, when a missing limb would force them from front line service; now, he could continue servicing his country.
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    Aside from the fact that he is now too old to do so. He sure is going to enjoy retirement a lot more, though.

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    DARPA is well just cool. It also points out how important the whole array US government agencies are that issue grants for science or do it directly even if it seems way out there but congresses is remorseless in its desire to fund tax cuts and kill science.
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    That's because science discriminates against one of their key demographics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    That's because science discriminates against one of their key demographics.
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    Seriously, though, this is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time.

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    This is amazing.

    Although I'd have preferred the ability to regrow missing limbs, cybernetic limbs aren't bad either xD


    Though i also wonder, would it be possible to create a cybernetic tentacle for instance? Or a set of robotic spider legs? Could our brains adapt to that?
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    Goddamn dude. Who the is going to request bionic spider legs?

    I guess some crazy psycho would. I have to admit, that would be pretty funny, but then terrifyingly creepy as soon as he got too close.

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    Wait, it is approved for domestic market already? I guess that is one good thing from the experience of Iraqi War and War in Afghanistan then, as it is not a secret that both UK and US military have been pouring funds into new prosthetic limbs due to high amount of IED attacks, often cause the victims lost limbs.

    By the way, how did someone lost an arm when step on a landmine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Wait, it is approved for domestic market already? I guess that is one good thing from the experience of Iraqi War and War in Afghanistan then, as it is not a secret that both UK and US military have been pouring funds into new prosthetic limbs due to high amount of IED attacks, often cause the victims lost limbs.

    By the way, how did someone lost an arm when step on a landmine?
    They explode up from the ground. There is a good chance shrapnel will hit you anywhere and take off a limb.

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    They explode up from the ground. There is a good chance shrapnel will hit you anywhere and take off a limb.
    Yes but shouldn't he lost his leg first? The only explanation I can think about is somehow he used his arm/hand to touch the mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Yes but shouldn't he lost his leg first? The only explanation I can think about is somehow he used his arm/hand to touch the mine.
    Well...no...I mean dude fricking youtube it or something. Maybe his mate stepped on it or something and he got hit with shrapnel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    By the way, how did someone lost an arm when step on a landmine?
    Shrapnel, infection, gangrene, like many traumatic injuries blood vessels can be so damaged that there is no hope of repair and amputation is the only choice. It the age group of 50 and under the leading cause of amputation is traumatic injuries, rather than the common supposed simple idea that their limbs were just blown off, like in a movie.
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    Among other things.

    I suspect in future with 3D printing, traps, as opposed to just using brute force explosives, are going to become more difficult to identify.
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    I would misuse the crap out of a mind controlled arm.
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    Probably easier to use then deliberately putting your right arm to sleep.
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