[Staff Referral] conon394 (1 Point) - Insulting Others [DISMISS]

**Diamat** · May 17, 2014, 09:45 AM

Post: The US Has 761 Military Bases Across the Planet: New colonialism around the world.
User: conon394
Infraction: insulting others
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

insulting others

Message to User:

Hey mate, saying "Dude lay of the crack" to someone constitutes an insult under the insulting others clause of the ToS. Specifically an insinuation about his intelligence, which can certainly be construed as insulting. Since you received a note for a very similar offense on March 17th, and even without that I'm sure you know better, I'm issuing this as a 1 point infraction. I'm going to offer the same advice to you as I give most everyone, though I'm sure you're familiar with the expression, that being address the post and not the poster. It keeps things impersonal and avoids the pitfalls that cause a post to fall afoul of moderation. As always you have the right to appeal in either the Tribunal or or Praetorium, and I encourage you to do so if you feel this infraction is unwarranted.

If you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me.

Original Post:

I'm hesitant to say France is a US puppet/victim of neocolonialism simply because France has no foreign troops in their country(Unlike Canada, the UK, Sweden and etc), and recently the French Government have been passing laws in which they can cancel bids by foreign companies that want to buy French industries. The UK is the complete opposite of the French basically if that makes sense.

Gosh I wish we had one of those laws than the rapacious Canadian Bombardier Aerospace would not have been allowed to buy Leer Jet... Most every nation does the same protects key industries up to a point even Canada. I'm not sure what you mean about France unless it the tiff around GE and Alstom but seeing as the alternative is selling to a German company I don't see what France gets

No, there are/were other options and as evident by the fact that Canadian politics are heavily influenced/controlled by the Americans, it was a grave error in calculation but unfortunately Canadian politicians didn't have the foresight to consider the consequences of their actions. Speaking personally though, I would've preferred a war with the US rather than joining NATO, but that's just my opinion.

Dude lay of the crack - what consequences has the Canada suffered from being in NATO, a US Puppet - really how? War with the the US are You insane - aside form the fact you would have lost, the US has had no interest in war with Canada since at least 1900.

If Canada is such a US puppet why was it allowed provide refuge for US draft dissenters during the Vietnam War or not provide a division or brigade?

Also you might consider that when the artic melts for good Canada will likely do better being in alliance w/Denmark Norway, sort of Sweden/Finland and the US and just just arguing with Russia all by it lonesome.

**Diamat** · May 17, 2014, 09:57 AM

Defense Requested.

**Aikanár** · May 17, 2014, 10:26 AM

Hm. "Lay of the crack." ...

**Aikanár** · May 22, 2014, 01:19 AM

Any news on a denfese?

Also, I'm torn.

I don't think that asking somebody to lay off the Crack is a nice thing to say, on the other hand, when taking the context of the debate into consideration, I'm tempted to regard it as an off the cuff remark to emphasise a point.

I'm torn.

**Diamat** · May 22, 2014, 10:27 AM

Still no defense. Added poll.

**Aikanár** · May 24, 2014, 02:35 AM

I'm still undecided, but since this is his first appearance before a citizen body which treats with behaviour and since it could very well be seen as a small laps, I'm more leaning towards a dismiss than further action.

**Leonidas The Lion** · May 24, 2014, 05:41 AM

I too am thinking about dismissing this, although lack of defence tells me he doesn't care about the process so perhaps a censure?

**Diamat** · May 24, 2014, 10:50 AM

He doesn't really have a history of such behavior, right? Moreover, it's not that extreme of a slip-up. And that's exactly what it was, a slip-up. I don't think he is the type to do this consistently or deliberately.

**Aikanár** · May 24, 2014, 05:23 PM

I agree with both of you. And, yes, Leo, I as well think he does not care. The question is, would a censure change that?

**Leonidas The Lion** · May 24, 2014, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Aikanár

The question is, would a censure change that?

I have absolutely no idea.

**Aikanár** · May 25, 2014, 03:31 AM

Alright, how about dismissing the case, but to put a line or two in the pm telling him so, that we would have appreciated a defense?

**Diamat** · May 25, 2014, 10:44 AM

That sounds like the sensible thing to do.

**Leonidas The Lion** · May 25, 2014, 12:06 PM

Voted to dismiss.

**Aikanár** · May 25, 2014, 02:22 PM

Conon394 has, as of yet, never been referred to a citizen body for disciplinary reasons. Considering the context of the discussion, I believe it was an of the cuff remark in order to emphasise that the arguments another user had presented where disconnected to reality. Not necessarily a nice thing to say, but not necessarily insulting either.

As was stated by Leo, I too would have appreciated if the referred would have rendered a defense. He has not chosen to do so.

Still, I have voted to dismiss this case.

I suggest that the Curator will express the appreciation of a defense to the referred in his pm when notifying the referred about the result of the referral.