question about loyalty

[Corsair1985]

hello, i' from sotuh america..i play stainless steel, is the better mod for medieval, congratulations for your works

well, english is not my language, so i not understand all the text in the game in a 100%

i always have a problem with the loyalty of my generals, the loyalty is always very few or zero


i want to know how improve the loyalty in the generals, in early campaign

thanks in advanced!

[Melooo182]

Una manera de aumentar la lealtad es poner los generals a hacer cosas, como atacar rebeldes, construir edificios en asentamientos etc
tambien influyen los atributos del lider de faccion, un lider con alta autoridad y "caballerosidad" disminuye las posibilidades de que los generales se vuelvan desleales
Y por ultimo, creo que la reputacion de tu faccion tambien juega algun papel aunque no estoy seguro.
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One way to increase loyalty is to the generals to do things, like attacking rebels, build buildings in settlements etc.
also influence the attributes of the faction leader, a leader with high authority and "chivalry" decreases the chances that general become unfair
And finally, I think your faction's reputation also plays some role but not sure.

[Alien Eel]

Also, don't take every "Candidate for adoption" option, because they might lower your other generals loyalty. And same goes for marriage proposals, and for "suitable prince" things.

[Corsair1985]

gracias por las respuestas, me he dado cuenta tambien que a veces la lealtad de algunos generales baja a cero, cuando conquisto una ciudad y en los mensajes sale algo asi como que el general ha "desbedecido ordenes" y algunos otros generales lo ven como oportunidad de rebelarse

thanks for the answers, i realized too, sometimes the lotalty of some generals come to zero when i conquest a city, the messages say the general "dissobey orders" and other generals see a opprtunity to rebel.

[Ardri]

My generals are picking up a lot of traits similar to "unsupervised" or "leader pays no attention" which I assume is due to the fact my faction leader has been campaigning in the field. Do I need to move him back to the capital city or tour him around my cities/castles?

[ludizoki]

I also have a question. In my recent campaign with Scotland my king got "offends the nobility" trait. Does anybody know how this happened. By the way, it disappeared the next round

[Strengelicher]

The loyalty problems are likely caused by activating BGR IV in the SS setup. Under BGR IV, the faction leader may sometimes issue general orders. They can be found in his traits. If a general breaks these orders, this may spark rebellion. The general in question will be punished (the punishment appearing in his traits), and if he obliges, order will be restored and loyalties will go back to normal. If not, some generals will become illoyal to the "weak" faction leader. In the worst case this may cause a civil war (which I personally have never experienced and therefore cannot comment upon).

The most common situation is the faction leader being very chivalrous and issuing the order that prisoners may not be killed. If this happens and a settlement is plundered, the trouble starts...

If you would read the instructions for BGR IV, you would know all this by the way...

[Corsair1985]

i realized traits similar to "unsupervised" or "leader pays no attention", can be prevented bringing the general as young as possible to spend a couple of turns with the faction leader, they wins the trait "has the king's eye"

when the general is banished he must stay in foreign territory, or they get the trait of defied orders

even if my leader is chivalrious y and my general NOY plunder a city Conquered the trait of defied orders appears too

[Corsair1985]

where can i read the instructions of SS6.4 about loyelty please?, thanks in advanced

[Corsair1985]

I read in the window of some generals "order:banished", this leaves the loyalty to zero too...what things makes a general banished?, maybe has to be with the wealth of the general?





in what things influences the richness of the general?



he leido en ventanas de algunos que general que son "desterrados", lo que baja su lealtad de cero tambien, tiene que ver con la riqueza del general, en que influye la riqueza del general?


greetings.

[Strengelicher]

You are dealing with two different loyalty problems. "Has the king's eye" or "Leader pays no attention" are traits from the basic SS mod. They only have a small effect on loyalty.

"Banished" on the other hand causes a huge loyalty drop, your general becomes practically worthless. I am quite sure this happened because he defied orders. The problem is these orders are not always easy to keep track of. You should check in your leader's traits at the beginning of every turn what orders are in effect. Try not to break them.

Or, if you want to make things easier for yourself, run the SS setup and disable BGR IV. If you want to learn more about BGR-related loyalty effects, read the BGR manuals provided in the sub-mod forum under BGR.

[Andytheplatypus]

You know you have BGR installed right? Might get a faster answer if you posted in the BGR thread.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ptional-Extras