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    Default PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    Chinese censors turn ‘Game of Thrones’ into a “medieval European castle documentary”

    This week, China Central Television (CCTV) made an uncharacteristically bold move: It aired the first season pilot of Game of Thrones, the popular HBO fantasy drama renowned for gruesome violence and graphic sex scenes. The move is likely part of a broader plan to help boost the audience for the country’s state-run traditional television stations, whose notoriously dull, heavily regulated programming has lost viewers to video streaming sites.
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    Yet CCTV evidently had to hew to rules on “public morality” that the Communist Party endorses; the pilot episode of the first season, “Winter is Coming” is about 11 minutes shorter than HBO’s and is dubbed in Mandarin.
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    If the internet response to CCTV’s tidied-up Game of Thrones is anything to go by, viewers are way too used to watching both pirated and licensed versions of foreign shows to swallow Communist Party-approved drama.
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    “So they’ve cut about a quarter of all the fight scenes, then a quarter of the nude scenes,” one blogger wrote (paywall) after the show’s first episode was shown over the weekend. “I guess that’s okay if all you want to watch is a medieval European castle documentary.”
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    Other commentators saw the show’s broadcast as another facet of Chinese censorship. By editing and voicing over the original show, authorities can make sure the show still “communicates socialist values,” one commentator wrote on the discussion forum Zhihu the day after CCTV broadcast and posted Game of Thrones episodes online.
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    That said, officials don’t seem to be that worried about explicit content. Two rather infamous sex scenes in the pilot episode—one depicting incest and another rape—made it through with only light edits.
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    For China’s censors, however, tougher calls lie ahead: Game of Thrones only gets gorier and racier as the show progresses (HBO just began airing the fourth season in the US). That makes CCTV’s choice of programming a little odd—particularly given that as part of a campaign to wipe offensive content from the internet, it just banned popular, and relatively wholesome, television shows like The Big Bang Theory from Chinese video streaming sites. (CCTV will also be showing an edited and “healthy” version of the The Big Bang Theory.)
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    Still, at least one Chinese internet user had a theory about this. “The government isn’t so much controlling for sensitive content, but showing the outside world a certain attitude: ‘I’ll restrict what I want to restrict and I’ll allow what I want to allow,’” another blogger said said on Zhihu. “It’s just a way to demonstrate power and influence.”
    Those last two quotes are really fascinating. The PRC's government says it is censoring a lot of this explicit material to maintain Chinese standards of decency in broadcasts, yet another motive may lie underneath. China has a habitual streak of sticking it to the outside world when the outside world prods and pokes its head into China's business. This could just be a way for China to demonstrate that it has complete control over its citizenry. What do you guys think?

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    Default Re: PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    I don't mean to hijack the thread, but in a similar light, China also banned several innocuous TV shows such as The Big Bag Theory:

    http://time.com/78927/china-ban-big-...s-practice-tv/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astaroth View Post
    I don't mean to hijack the thread, but in a similar light, China also banned several innocuous TV shows such as The Big Bag Theory:

    http://time.com/78927/china-ban-big-...s-practice-tv/
    Now that my government is China's I really hope they'll ban this show as well, along with Jersey Shore and all the "reality" shows.

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    It doesn't matter until PRC manages to prevent all forms of porn being accessible to Chinese males.
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    Default Re: PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    It doesn't matter until PRC manages to prevent all forms of porn being accessible to Chinese males.
    To them I say: good luck.

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    Default Re: PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    The Chinese government might be on to something by banning the Big Bang theory...

    It might be that the chinese government is letting sex and gore only come from official chinese sources, if you want blood and/or boobs, you got to get it from the government!

    Like how they let religion into the contry, but only official approved and regulated ones.

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    What is the socialist value in Game of Thrones anyway?
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    I don't get the point of showing Game of Thrones in the first place. It wouldn't be on regular US channels anyway. They should show Madmen. At least the moral behavior of the show is consistent with Chinese norm.

    [Note- I now met three married Chinese women who are 'trap' in loveless marriages in which their husbands have (not so) secrete lover. And yes, they are also looking for a little 'action' themselves.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by PikeStance View Post
    [Note- I now met three married Chinese women who are 'trap' in loveless marriages in which their husbands have (not so) secrete lover. And yes, they are also looking for a little 'action' themselves.]
    What you are implying?
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    Chinese family life is not as virtuous as what might assume
    I wish a mother of one of my students were such a virtuous women
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    The shows listed are going to be put into history books!

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    (Original) Dallas as an indictment of Western morals and lifestyle.
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    Default Re: PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    (Original) Dallas as an indictment of Western morals and lifestyle.
    You know, that thing actually rocked in the former USSR. There was a documentary on Brazilian TV some months ago on how Dallas and Brazilian soap operas were the few mainstream Western "cultural" products legally imported and broadcast there because they portrayed the perils of capitalism as well as its disgusting consequences. They managed to turn all of that into Anti-Western Western-made propaganda. But in the end everyone was watching it because they liked watching the "bad guys". So much for the propaganda effort

    Dallas was, well... Dallas. And the Brazilian soap-opera in question (but there were many) was a 70s one called Escrava Isaura set in post-Independence Brazil about this slave that falls in love and runs away with the son of its owner. Or "how in the Western world who owns money gets to with you and own your body and soul". If it sounds epic and actually interesting historic-wise behold because it's a cheesy love story soap opera. That's why their attempt at reverse-engineering it for propaganda purposes failed.

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    Default Re: PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    Yet CCTV evidently had to hew to rules on “public morality” that the Communist Party endorses; the pilot episode of the first season, “Winter is Coming” is about 11 minutes shorter than HBO’s and is dubbed in Mandarin.
    China just don't bother showing it anyway...

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    Default Re: PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    I wonder if the actual explanation is a lot less calculated. It may be that in the people that decide what TV shows are OK, there just happens to be a Game of Thrones fan.

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    Default Re: PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by James the Red View Post
    I wonder if the actual explanation is a lot less calculated. It may be that in the people that decide what TV shows are OK, there just happens to be a Game of Thrones fan.
    China doesn't exactly have the reputation of doing things by accident or in a way that isn't heavily calculated and part of a larger long term strategy, you could be right though.

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    Big Bang theory isn't a real loss, i can't stand it anyway.
    But maybe China should rethink its policy, censoring pornographical and violent content will only lead to discontent. Bread and Games you know, let them have some fun.
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    Default Re: PRC censorship of 'Game of Thrones' more about demonstration of government power than maintaining morality standards?

    People need to keep in mind a large portion of Chinese watch tv via the computer. Online, they have access to a lot of American programming. Even the "ban" stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PikeStance View Post
    People need to keep in mind a large portion of Chinese watch tv via the computer. Online, they have access to a lot of American programming. Even the "ban" stuff.
    Ya, you just need to get over the digital longwall.
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    Especially the banned stuff.
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