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    Default Gerry Adams Arrested In Connection With 1972 IRA Murder

    http://news.sky.com/story/1252647/ge...ce-over-murder

    He's always denied he was a member of the IRA, but I don't think many people ever believed him.

    Perhaps his past is catching up with him?


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    Just seen this reported. Early days though. Clearly a long time coming.

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    so the americans finally decided to hand over that information on the brutal killing of a young mum of ten kids? it only took them 13 years. i guess a thanks is in order.




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    Default Re: Gerry Adams Arrested In Connection With 1972 IRA Murder

    Put the er with his brother.

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    Default Re: Gerry Adams Arrested In Connection With 1972 IRA Murder

    Gerry seems to have a track record when it comes to withholding evidence.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pielstick View Post
    http://news.sky.com/story/1252647/ge...ce-over-murder

    He's always denied he was a member of the IRA, but I don't think many people ever believed him.

    Perhaps his past is catching up with him?
    Considering Sinn Fein was basically just the political arm of the IRA during the troubles there is no way he could have been leader of the political group without being a member of the IRA itself. Now let's just hope that a proper investigation is done and if he is guilty he gets sent away, no political hiding behind Good Friday, throw him away. BUT, if he is innocent then let him go and continue in his political career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemgod View Post
    Considering Sinn Fein was basically just the political arm of the IRA during the troubles there is no way he could have been leader of the political group without being a member of the IRA itself.
    Lots of people who are/were in a position to know will tell you he was a member of the Army Council.

    I read this book many years ago:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bandit-Count.../dp/0340717378

    In it the author makes a pretty good case that the Omagh atrocity was carried out with at least the tacit approval of the Army Council, of which Adams was/is a member.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nemgod View Post
    Considering Sinn Fein was basically just the political arm of the IRA during the troubles there is no way he could have been leader of the political group without being a member of the IRA itself. Now let's just hope that a proper investigation is done and if he is guilty he gets sent away, no political hiding behind Good Friday, throw him away. BUT, if he is innocent then let him go and continue in his political career.

    Good Friday only applied to crimes committed and convicted before it was signed, so he has no leg to stand on with this.

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    if things start to look dicey for Gerry if it goes to trial, better keep the kids away from shopping centres.




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    They better have some damn good evidence against him for this or it's going to create a whole host of issues.
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    I think the PSNI are the last people who would need reminding the gravity of the situation and potential storm that would arise from arresting Gerry Adams.

    One can only assume that the evidence turned over by the Boston university has some pretty incriminating stuff regarding Adams.


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    That's going to kill anything to do with the attempts at amnesty and cause a lot of ing issues.

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    He could always request to be issued one of those immunity letters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John ''True Grit'' Wayne View Post
    Tony Blair has one for killing millions maybe Gerry can have 1 for a rat woman.
    What exactly do you mean by 'rat woman?' Her only 'crime' was coming to the aid of a wounded British Soldier. Does that warrant kidnapping, torture and execution in your eyes?
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    This is going to stir up a lot of .
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    Default Re: Gerry Adams Arrested In Connection With 1972 IRA Murder

    It's just further evidence that Northern Ireland needs a new generation of leaders that are not embroiled with The Troubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobz View Post
    It's just further evidence that Northern Ireland needs a new generation of leaders that are not embroiled with The Troubles.
    Well, when several people come forward to the police with testimony that Gerry Adams had ordered the murder, what are the police supposed to do? Ignore it? Unless his guilt is immediately ruled out by circumstantial evidence, ignoring it for whatever reason would basically be against the law. From Wikipedia:

    Former Belfast IRA commander Brendan Hughes has named Adams as ordering the murder and secret burial of Jean McConville in 1972.[26] Former republican prisoner Evelyn Gilroy, who was active in Divis where Jean McConville was abducted, says that Adams was the only person in the position to order the murder.[34] Among the abductors of McConville was Dolours Price, who has claimed that she did so on the orders of Adams.[6] Former Garda Detective Superintendent PJ Browne has claimed that Adams was "the leader of the psychotic IRA unit in Belfast in the early 1970s".[35]
    So far the only evidence against Adams is the testimony of witnesses who knew him at the time, along with one of the alleged abductors. I don't think the evidence is going to get more concrete than that; it's not like there's a recorded tape of him giving the order or some decades-old blood sample down at the forensics lab that's going to indicate him in anything. He might even walk away from this, but not before his day in court.

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    He will be found innocent as there is no real concrete evidence against him

    But we all know he ordered killings and we all know he was IRA.Johnny Adair is free and other killers too.They even let Stone out (the guy who hand grenaded a funeral) and he went nuts again and had to be rearrested outside government buildings trying to kill Gerry and Martin Mc Guinness.I am surprised a amnesty is not in place for this killing of this informer.She was a snitch and we all know snitches get stitches.

    The Gerry Adams party has been doing well in polling and with elections around the corner I wonder if this is a way of destroying his SF party.


    He might even walk away from this, but not before his day in court.
    The Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4 shows if you are Irish you will not get a fair trial in a British court and they will fake evidence.Having a beard and wearing a Aran jumper while playing a tin whistle is outlawed in some places up the North.

    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    He could always request to be issued one of those immunity letters.
    Tony Blair has one for killing millions maybe Gerry can have 1 for a rat woman.
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    Default Re: Gerry Adams Arrested In Connection With 1972 IRA Murder

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ll-police.html


    It's all ok though because she was a snitch.

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    Default Re: Gerry Adams Arrested In Connection With 1972 IRA Murder

    This is from the Voices from the Grave documentary where they recorded UVF and IRA gunmen and bombers, and promised to only release their testimony once they were dead. Enough died so they released a docco about it, and the IRA guys fingered Adams as being behind McConville's murder, although the IRA gunman in the docco says she had a transmitter for the British Army, was told not to do it and warned by the IRA and then ultimately killed when she did not heed the warning. Informants were killed on both sides by either the IRA or the UVF.

    The IRA will see this arrest as a way to frustrate the IRA politically, so it might lead to more unrest.
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