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    In Putin's Russia journalists step out of windows, in the Thatcherist West Bankers have "accidents". The dichotomy is curious! The West has fully made Mammon its god and destroying the traditions that made it great. I give even nominal democracy another century before a Western Caesar finally does away with it.

    http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/0...ral-regulator/

    Suspicious Deaths of Bankers Are Now Classified as “Trade Secrets” by Federal Regulator

    By Pam Martens and Russ Martens: April 28, 2014

    It doesn’t get any more Orwellian than this: Wall Street mega banks crash the U.S. financial system in 2008. Hundreds of thousands of financial industry workers lose their jobs. Then, beginning late last year, a rash of suspicious deaths start to occur among current and former bank employees. Next we learn that four of the Wall Street mega banks likely hold over $680 billion face amount of life insurance on their workers, payable to the banks, not the families. We ask their Federal regulator for the details of this life insurance under a Freedom of Information Act request and we’re told the information constitutes “trade secrets.”

    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the life expectancy of a 25 year old male with a Bachelor’s degree or higher as of 2006 was 81 years of age. But in the past five months, five highly educated JPMorgan male employees in their 30s and one former employee aged 28, have died under suspicious circumstances, including three of whom allegedly leaped off buildings – a statistical rarity even during the height of the financial crisis in 2008.

    There is one other major obstacle to brushing away these deaths as random occurrences – they are not happening at JPMorgan’s closest peer bank – Citigroup. Both JPMorgan and Citigroup are global financial institutions with both commercial banking and investment banking operations. Their employee counts are similar – 260,000 employees for JPMorgan versus 251,000 for Citigroup.

    Both JPMorgan and Citigroup also own massive amounts of bank-owned life insurance (BOLI), a controversial practice that pays the corporation when a current or former employee dies. (In the case of former employees, the banks conduct regular “death sweeps” of public records using former employees’ Social Security numbers to learn if a former employee has died and then submits a request for payment of the death benefit to the insurance company.)

    Wall Street On Parade carefully researched public death announcements over the past 12 months which named the decedent as a current or former employee of Citigroup or its commercial banking unit, Citibank. We found no data suggesting Citigroup was experiencing the same rash of deaths of young men in their 30s as JPMorgan Chase. Nor did we discover any press reports of leaps from buildings among Citigroup’s workers.

    Given the above set of facts, on March 21 of this year, we wrote to the regulator of national banks, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC), seeking the following information under the Freedom of Information Act (See OCC Response to Wall Street On Parade’s Request for Banker Death Information):

    The number of deaths from 2008 through March 21, 2014 on which JPMorgan Chase collected death benefits; the total face amount of BOLI life insurance in force at JPMorgan; the total number of former and current employees of JPMorgan Chase who are insured under these policies; any peer studies showing the same data comparing JPMorgan Chase with Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Citigroup.

    The OCC responded politely by letter dated April 18, after first calling a few days earlier to inform us that we would be getting nothing under the sunshine law request. (On Wall Street, sunshine routinely means dark curtain.) The OCC letter advised that documents relevant to our request were being withheld on the basis that they are “privileged or contains trade secrets, or commercial or financial information, furnished in confidence, that relates to the business, personal, or financial affairs of any person,” or relate to “a record contained in or related to an examination.”

    The ironic reality is that the documents do not pertain to the personal financial affairs of individuals who have a privacy right. Individuals are not going to receive the proceeds of this life insurance for the most part. In many cases, they do not even know that multi-million dollar policies that pay upon their death have been taken out by their employer or former employer. Equally important, JPMorgan is a publicly traded company whose shareholders have a right under securities laws to understand the quality of its earnings – are those earnings coming from traditional banking and investment banking operations or is this ghoulish practice of profiting from the death of workers now a major contributor to profits on Wall Street?

    As it turns out, one aspect of the information cavalierly denied to us by the OCC is publicly available to those willing to hunt for it. On March 24 of this year, we reported that JPMorgan Chase held $10.4 billion in BOLI assets at its insured depository bank as of December 31, 2013.
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    This calls for directionless popular mass murder.

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    So the tax payer bailouts and manipulation of markets are no longer enough ehh? The rationalization is the same. We are too dependent on the banks. If they 'fail'.. and they will if they don't get their way ala 2008, we fail. This country will 'thrive' until it's poverty rate is 99%.

    Killing their employees for insurance money sounds desperate to me. Trade Secrets.. now that's funny.

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    It is not unusual for a business to buy life insurance on employees. My wife's business owned policies on her and her business partner. And yes the details of those policies were a trade secret protected by law. Even now years after the partnership is dissolved I cannot speak about the details of those policies and many others aspects of the business.

    However I am not surprised that people that frequent video game sites find that surprising. I don't think I'm stepping out on a limb by surmising that that there are far more students and recent college grads than there are business executives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    However I am not surprised that people that frequent video game sites find that surprising. I don't think I'm stepping out on a limb by surmising that that there are far more students and recent college grads than there are business executives.
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    Website is a complete joke. Headline from another article is "Wall Street employs programmers, takes them away from real jobs"

    I'd take my sources from a website that isn't a graffiti den of OWS.
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    I was surprised when the US Congress actually knocked the "too big to fail" bail out for Wall Street the first time. But they caved in the second time, now Wall Street has concluded it is a law unto itself. Anglo-Saxon civilization as it was known is now gone.

    Personally I'm a goldbug and a believer in old fashioned values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wulfgar610 View Post
    I was surprised when the US Congress actually knocked the "too big to fail" bail out for Wall Street the first time. But they caved in the second time, now Wall Street has concluded it is a law unto itself. Anglo-Saxon civilization as it was known is now gone.

    Personally I'm a goldbug and a believer in old fashioned values.
    Nice, so as long is not some mega-corp it can go to hell since we all love the market mechanisms, yet when it`s a mega corp we can`t let it fall because we all love regulations?

    Americans have understood socialism wrong, it`s take from the rich and give to the poor not take from the poor and give to the rich.It`s so simple, how can they mix them up?

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    I've got one question: who payed the life insurance premium, the employee or the bank.? If the bank payed it they don't really have that much to gain from offing employees. I also find it very strange that the authors did not considers some of the more mundane reasons for the suicides: the stress of working for a failing bank in which you have invested everything you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Adrian View Post
    I've got one question: who payed the life insurance premium, the employee or the bank.? If the bank payed it they don't really have that much to gain from offing employees. I also find it very strange that the authors did not considers some of the more mundane reasons for the suicides: the stress of working for a failing bank in which you have invested everything you have.
    The bank pays it, it works out good if one collects early in the piece. It would be better is life insurance was limited to the person themselves and their spouse. Then murder in this case can stay in the family.

    Nice, so as long is not some mega-corp it can go to hell since we all love the market mechanisms, yet when it`s a mega corp we can`t let it fall because we all love regulations?

    Americans have understood socialism wrong, it`s take from the rich and give to the poor not take from the poor and give to the rich.It`s so simple, how can they mix them up?
    The new West seems to have gone through the evolution the old West as Rome went though in the 2nd century BC. Then we see the growth of the mega corporate in the form of the giant latifundia work by slaves at the cost of the small landholder. The wealth gained from the conquest of Spain went on to rapidly corrupt the Republican values.

    The GFC became a giant con job, the Wall Street banks purposely created a "bad bank" in the form of the derivative contracts in their favor with AIG. Then it was up to the US congress to make the taxpayer take the hit. The objectively cost 80 billion. I thought the congress would have caved in straight away, but they didn't. I had my hopes up for a few days. I'm not privy to their world, but these are people have nothing but contempt for all social values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wulfgar610 View Post
    The bank pays it, it works out good if one collects early in the piece. It would be better is life insurance was limited to the person themselves and their spouse. Then murder in this case can stay in the family.
    In that case, depending on the details of the contract, type of life insurance and the equation used, the banks lose a lot of money even if they collect the insurance so it doesn't make a lot of sense to kill off your employees. In fact, economically, it doesn't even make any sense for the bank to be paying life insurance for an employee unless it's part of some intricate money laundering and evasion scheme (not saying that is).

    Quote Originally Posted by Nevins View Post
    So if i'm following the intent of the article the banks are taking out life insurance on their employees and then murdering them for the money? Is that what we are entertaining right now?
    What'ss funny is that the insurance company pays less than what you pay for the premiums so the banks are actually losing money from the insurance, money they invested in the employee and the money they will have to invest in the new employee.
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    The banks might be pre-empting the whistle-blowers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wulfgar610 View Post
    In Putin's Russia journalists step out of windows, in the Thatcherist West Bankers have "accidents". The dichotomy is curious! The West has fully made Mammon its god and destroying the traditions that made it great. I give even nominal democracy another century before a Western Caesar finally does away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Nah man, its just a conspiracy theory. Why would Caesar become a dictator? He is a patriot of Rome and defender of the Republic. You probably watched too much ST (Suebia Today). Everyone knows its a Cherusci propaganda mouthpiece.
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    So if i'm following the intent of the article the banks are taking out life insurance on their employees and then murdering them for the money? Is that what we are entertaining right now?
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    I'd just like to point out that the article is basing itself on six deaths. From a statistical perspective, that's a tiny group. The smaller the sample, the less likely it is to conform to standard predictions based on larger groups. It's quite possible that six people decided to go and off themselves based on their own personal circumstances.

    Six is small enough for individual agency to throw the whole examination out of whack. As Isaac Asimov wrote in his book Foundation, a group of millions can be predicted accurately, but individuals can't by their very nature. A scientific study with a similar size would be thrown straight out (unless it was written about autism and vaccines of course... ).

    That issue conflated with the fact that banker suicides have been grossly misreported in recent years leads to a bit of a murky situation. I fully agree that the practice of corporations taking out life insurance on their employees is absolutely outrageous... but the implication that they're actively knocking off staff to claim their premiums is laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Retreat View Post
    I'd just like to point out that the article is basing itself on six deaths. From a statistical perspective, that's a tiny group. The smaller the sample, the less likely it is to conform to standard predictions based on larger groups. It's quite possible that six people decided to go and off themselves based on their own personal circumstances.

    Six is small enough for individual agency to throw the whole examination out of whack. As Isaac Asimov wrote in his book Foundation, a group of millions can be predicted accurately, but individuals can't by their very nature. A scientific study with a similar size would be thrown straight out (unless it was written about autism and vaccines of course... ).

    That issue conflated with the fact that banker suicides have been grossly misreported in recent years leads to a bit of a murky situation. I fully agree that the practice of corporations taking out life insurance on their employees is absolutely outrageous... but the implication that they're actively knocking off staff to claim their premiums is laughable.
    this pretty much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Retreat View Post
    That issue conflated with the fact that banker suicides have been grossly misreported in recent years leads to a bit of a murky situation. I fully agree that the practice of corporations taking out life insurance on their employees is absolutely outrageous... but the implication that they're actively knocking off staff to claim their premiums is laughable.
    Sure makes for a good conspiracy theory, though...or a Matt Damon movie.

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    Only 6 bankers having suspicious deaths.. nothing to see here masses, move along.. heheheh...

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