Donald Sterling banned for life, fined $2.5 million

[Earl Dibbles Jr]

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/0...illion-by-nba/

I'm happy this racist is banned. Here's a couple other people that the NBA should consider banning for life and fining.



"We are a Black league"



Jay-Z was racist against whites while attending a game, where's his fine and bans?

[Caduet]

rofl and this jew was getting an award from the NAACP next month.

nice civil rights movement, negroes.

still, he bought the team for like 12 million and its going to sell for like 500 million i bet.

[Earl Dibbles Jr]

rofl and this jew was getting an award from the NAACP next month.

Is he actually getting an award?

[Caduet]

well he actually already had one "lifetime achievement award", and they were going to get him another, but not anymore lol.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ffman/8411441/

[Earl Dibbles Jr]

well he actually already had one "lifetime achievement award", and they were going to get him another, but not anymore lol.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ffman/8411441/

This is hilarious.

[Col. Tartleton]

As I said when this broke, a man like him has no business running a basketball team. As Barkley said, approximately 80% of the players in the league are black. Most of his team is black. Many of the fans are black.

Anyhow, the 5% Nation was part of Jay-Z's influences when he was up and coming. That sort of black power ideology was big in the 1980s and 1990s in New York City. Listen to Wu Tang Clan. Listen to various artists from that time and place. It was a real part of the culture. Race relations were still shaky back then. I don't think RZA or Jay-Z or those artists from that community still harbor those feelings, but its part of the language of New York rap. Like when they call someone a G that is short for God which is in the 5% terminology a black man. The female equivalent is Earth. People think G is Gangster but that's a misconception.

[Earl Dibbles Jr]

As I said when this broke, a man like him has no business running a basketball team. As Barkley said, approximately 80% of the players in the league are black. Most of his team is black. Many of the fans are black.

So, I could say that the United States is a "White Country" because 72% of people here are Caucasian? Cool.

[Col. Tartleton]

So, I could say that the United States is a "White Country" because 72% of people here are Caucasian? Cool.

In a non exclusionary context? Yes.

Would people be offended if I described the NHL as a white league or a Canadian league? If someone publicly made discriminatory remarks against the Canadian people as the owner of a hockey team would that fly? Half the league are Canadian.

[ivan_the_terrible]

As I said when this broke, a man like him has no business running a basketball team. As Barkley said, approximately 80% of the players in the league are black. Most of his team is black. Many of the fans are black.

Anyhow, the 5% Nation was part of Jay-Z's influences when he was up and coming. That sort of black power ideology was big in the 1980s and 1990s in New York City. Listen to Wu Tang Clan. Listen to various artists from that time and place. It was a real part of the culture. Race relations were still shaky back then. I don't think RZA or Jay-Z or those artists from that community still harbor those feelings, but its part of the language of New York rap. Like when they call someone a G that is short for God which is in the 5% terminology a black man. The female equivalent is Earth. People think G is Gangster but that's a misconception.

Yep and NYC hip hop has had a profound impact on the whole genre. Listen to Jay Electronica, who is in fact from New Orleans, but cut his teeth in the north-east. it's hugely influential in hip hop. And hip hop has since entered the mainstream.

Besides, Fiver Percenter thinking is not uniform in emphasising the superiority of the so-called "Asiatic Black Man". Many of them downplay the black-exclusive part of it, focusing instead on the idea that "God" is actually the collective divine spark in every human. Kind of like what the Stoics called the pneuma. It's actually quite similar to Stoic philosophy in some ways, if you look past the racial variable. This racial part, as you say, has its origins in a very specific socio-economic inequality and repression that black people experienced (and continue to experience) in northern urban centres, and which found expression in hip hop from the 1970s and 1980s. It's entirely understandable, just as it makes sense that its racist elements get left by the wayside as the genre wins mainstream acceptance and its founders mature.


To make an analogy, Jay-Z wearing a necklace with Fiver Percenter symbolism is not racist against white people because of what some of the early founders of that ideology espoused. It's no more racist than someone wearing a cross is anti-Semitic, given the strong and sustained historical anti-Semitism of many Christian leaders...

[tarvu]

Covert racism, as opposed to overt racism allows people to excuse and conceal their prejudice towards other groups as non-offensive. Sterling was involved in several lawsuits where his prejudice was evident. He paid a settlement in a case where he was accused of housing discrimination for comments he made about evicting all black tenants due to their smell and vagrancy (these are luxury apartments).



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"When Sterling first bought the Ardmore, he remarked on its odor to Davenport. 'That's because of all the blacks in this building, they smell, they're not clean,' he said, according to Davenport's testimony. 'And it's because of all of the Mexicans that just sit around and smoke and drink all day.' He added: "So we have to get them out of here.' Shortly after, construction work caused a serious leak at the complex. When Davenport surveyed the damage, she found an elderly woman, Kandynce Jones, wading through several inches of water in Apartment 121. Jones was paralyzed on the right side and legally blind. She took medication for high blood pressure and to thin a clot in her leg. Still, she was remarkably cheerful, showing Davenport pictures of her children, even as some of her belongings floated around her. ...
"Davenport reported what she saw to Sterling, and according to her testimony, he asked: 'Is she one of those black people that stink?' When Davenport told Sterling that Jones wanted to be reimbursed for the water damage and compensated for her ruined property, he replied: 'I am not going to do that. Just evict the ' ."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4187729

See that sounds pretty racist to me, but he denies that he is a racist so I guess I'm wrong.

Almost all racism today is covert racism.

But here he is on tape specifically talking about not wanting black people to be brought to his games, or at least to mix with white (or acceptably white mixed race people like his girlfriend) attendants because of his respect for his "culture".

He does not think he is a racist, Bundy does not think he is a racist, the modern Klu Klux clan does not think they are racist. No one (well almost) in America thinks they are racist.

Cue TWC like the rest of the internet today and this weekend, showing the world how they too are not racist despite whether they are defending a racist, saying racist things themselves, or equating the scale of discrimination and outright prejudice with what they consider equal crimes by black people ALL THE TIME and crying outrage.

Well I believe it, because I have to according to the TOS of this website. Racism has been eradicated by the denunciation of this ugly terminology by those who merely respect the significance of culture, and the ability to call for segregation and discrimination without the nasty connotations of hatred and -isms being thrown their way.

It is unacceptable for a man, today in the 21st century, to be unfairly subjected to attacks labeling him a bigot just because of his views on people who are different than him!

big·ot

noun \ˈbi-gət\ : a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

[frozenprince]

Alright I'm going to say this since you people are going to over react and blah blah blah like you usually do.

Donald Sterling received a lifetime ban, a 2.5 million dollar fine, and will summarily be voted out of his controlling ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers within the month. His racist comments were nothing more than the catalyst to this. The reason he's being fired, from the private organization, that he agreed to be bound by it's charters and constitution, is because his idiocy and racism harms the image of the league.

The image of the league took a hit when he did this, it's bottom line, the only thing the league and other owners care about, took a hit when he did this, the public, for the most part, has show so much outrage that this and only this is the response the NBA and Adam Silver could take. It has NOTHING to do with whatever stupid comments and racist crap he says. He's been a racist bastard since he bought the team 33 years ago. It's the worst kept secret in professional sports. The issue is that now it's a public issue and the backlash could do irreparable harm to the NBA's image if he wasn't ousted.

This had to happen. There is no other solution. It's not about being a racist, it's about hurting the NBA's bottom line. Period.

[fkizz]

Alright I'm going to say this since you people are going to over react and blah blah blah like you usually do.

Donald Sterling received a lifetime ban, a 2.5 million dollar fine, and will summarily be voted out of his controlling ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers within the month. His racist comments were nothing more than the catalyst to this. The reason he's being fired, from the private organization, that he agreed to be bound by it's charters and constitution, is because his idiocy and racism harms the image of the league.

The image of the league took a hit when he did this, it's bottom line, the only thing the league and other owners care about, took a hit when he did this, the public, for the most part, has show so much outrage that this and only this is the response the NBA and Adam Silver could take. It has NOTHING to do with whatever stupid comments and racist crap he says. He's been a racist bastard since he bought the team 33 years ago. It's the worst kept secret in professional sports. The issue is that now it's a public issue and the backlash could do irreparable harm to the NBA's image if he wasn't ousted.

This had to happen. There is no other solution. It's not about being a racist, it's about hurting the NBA's bottom line. Period.

Pretty much. A 2.5 million fine for saying something racist? That seems too profitable move to be an "anti racist" fine. It's about business and defending the brand.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Alright I'm going to say this since you people are going to over react and blah blah blah like you usually do.

Donald Sterling received a lifetime ban, a 2.5 million dollar fine, and will summarily be voted out of his controlling ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers within the month. His racist comments were nothing more than the catalyst to this. The reason he's being fired, from the private organization, that he agreed to be bound by it's charters and constitution, is because his idiocy and racism harms the image of the league.

The image of the league took a hit when he did this, it's bottom line, the only thing the league and other owners care about, took a hit when he did this, the public, for the most part, has show so much outrage that this and only this is the response the NBA and Adam Silver could take. It has NOTHING to do with whatever stupid comments and racist crap he says. He's been a racist bastard since he bought the team 33 years ago. It's the worst kept secret in professional sports. The issue is that now it's a public issue and the backlash could do irreparable harm to the NBA's image if he wasn't ousted.

This had to happen. There is no other solution. It's not about being a racist, it's about hurting the NBA's bottom line. Period.

Then they have to take an equally hard line across the board, no exceptions. When black players use slurs, and I think we both know what slur, they should receive a consequence in accordance to their breach of standards and protocol as well. Enforce standards uniformly or not at all. The absurdity of this case springs from the one sided nature of enforcement because of the type of offender. The circumstances and origin of the comments should also have been considered. He didn't spout a racist diatribe from a pulpit to an eager audience, he was recorded in a private conversation. I'm sorry but this whole case has just smacked of a witch hunt to ruin someone over some racist comments said in confidence. Nobody gives a good god damn when we hear people saying a certain slur recorded on the sidelines of a sporting event by the players. Or constantly in music. Or constantly on tv. If racism is to be banned in the NBA it can't just be banned for a certain group of people.

[frozenprince]

Chuck said their a black league... because it's a black league. It's not discriminatory or racist or prejudicial. It's just fact.

[YuriVII]

It's a really cute story. One of those stories that gives everyone a chance to stand up to racism when it doesn't cost them anything and allow them to give themselves a pat on the back and make them feel that they are good people.

That housing stuff he did was the real story but everyone got their panties in a bunch when his mistress released some tapes basically asking her not to be a whore in public.

[frozenprince]

I think Boomani Jones said it best, Yuri, who the REAL victims of Donald Stirling are:

http://youtu.be/g6bLKe9-Mto?t=3m41s

People love to be outraged by racism without directly dealing with the issues REAL racism presents.

[tarvu]

I think Boomani Jones said it best, Yuri, who the REAL victims of Donald Stirling are:

http://youtu.be/g6bLKe9-Mto?t=3m41s

People love to be outraged by racism without directly dealing with the issues REAL racism presents.

I mentioned the housing discrimination case, NPR mentioned it, I've seen it all over the internet as a result of Donald Sterling's latest controversy. Most of it is brushed aside by the internet, and by most people in America clearly because they do not want to admit that racism is an actual problem in this country.

However, that Sterling is being banned from the league is still a positive step and no one is the victim of that. They are the victim of the same kind of denial of racism that reverberates in comment sections, and discussion forums like this today.

If what you get out of the story is that racism is real and an actual problem we should face in America. Great, but don't tell me that is a majority opinion around here all of a sudden. This is a small victory of people actually being held accountable for racial discrimination, in a country that vehemently denies this is still a problem in the 21st century.

[YuriVII]

Heh, I listened to him right before I posted. He kinda confirmed my suspicions on the whole thing. Racism stories like this seem pretty common and the real stories always seem to get brushed under the rug.

[frozenprince]

Because in the real stories people die every day, or become addicts, or drug dealers, or just give up on life and coast through the low income brackets until they die an early death.

And people don't like those things, too depressing and hard to confront. Much easier just to look down at a rich old out of touch guy and shame him for not wanting his mistress around all his other old rich out of touch friends. Instead of looking at and being outraged by the fact that, you know, the owner of a professional sports franchise was also one of the worst slum lords in LA.

[Imperial]

Rich old white guy is racist...news at 11.

Not like much of the NBA players are any better than him with the rapings and wife beatings.