Egypt: Court sentences 700 people to death

[Papay]

http://www.google.gr/url?sa=t&rct=j&...LeU9ykvNURIGIg

Let us see now if they carry these sentences. The military regime in Egypt is not different compared to other regimes in the middle east

[Roma_Victrix]

http://www.google.gr/url?sa=t&rct=j&...wCJL47wNT6by9g

Mass terror in Egypt?

Could you link to a stable article, please? Like this one. The moderators might shut this thread down on that account, and for the fact that a thread in the Mudpit needs a greater basis for discussion than one pithy four-word sentence.

That said, Egypt is looking worse and worse these days. Executing this many at once seems barbaric and unjust. They've also been detaining journalists who they accuse of helping the Muslim Brotherhood. Hilariously enough, they include Al-Jazeera news journalists of all people.

[Papay]

Could you link to a stable article, please? Like this one. The moderators might shut this thread down on that account, and for the fact that a thread in the Mudpit needs a greater basis for discussion than one pithy four-word sentence.

That said, Egypt is looking worse and worse these days. Executing this many at once seems barbaric and unjust. They've also been detaining journalists who they accuse of helping the Muslim Brotherhood. Hilariously enough, they include Al-Jazeera news journalists of all people.

For some reason i cannot post the link. I dunno why

[sumskilz]

Of more concern, Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis has threatened Pepsi:

“You know who we are and what we can do,” the group addressed the company on Twitter. “This is the last warning and after this, Pepsi Co. can only blame itself. By God, we will not tolerate working with the police whatever the client, the amount and status.”

But are these Sinai based Jihadis confused? Is it really Coke that is collaborating with the Egyptian government or does the government simply have no respect for trademark law?



http://english.alarabiya.net/en/vari...ten-Pepsi.html

[Visna]

It's a long and proud political tradition, and not just in Egypt either, that if you're not in power, you're in deep trouble. Prison, executions, you name it. It isn't exactly promoting political, social or economic stability, but what can you do.

[Condottiere 40K]

It's just an opening proffer.

At some point, it will be commuted to life sentences.

[IZob]

@Papay, you should not reinterpret information just because you want to.

- Its 682 people, not 700.
- They are recommended the death sentence, not sentenced to death.

I think its also worth mentioning there is capital punishment on a further 37 people, and life in prism for another 492 people.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-2...-death/5416458


I have doubts this is all made in the name of justice.

[Kyriakos]

Also worth noting this part, by an esteemed member of the egyptian court d' etat:

We have strong evidence that incriminates all those sentenced to death.

What the hell is going on in that regime? 700+300= 1000 people sentenced to death, with strong evidence they killed or threatened (sic) to kill policemen? Sounds really democratic

[The Hedge Knight]

To sentence 700 people is just four hours is a farce whichever way you look at it. How could one possibly verify the involvement and guilt of 700 people at a rate of almost three a minute?

[Dromikaites]

In the end probably some 5% of those 1,000 convicted would be sentenced to death and even less would actually be executed.

The number of convictions is nevertheless huge by Western standards and can only be explained by the magnitude of the problem the Egyptian authorities are trying to address.

We are talking about a 86+ million people country which is not very stable and which cannot be stabilized very quickly because the roots of that instability lie in corruption and poverty, both needing a long time to fix. And the authorities themselves are sometimes part of the problem as much as they are part of the solution.

We're also talking about a political organization (the Muslim Brotherhood) which has dabbled into terrorism on many occasions and whose leaders sometimes express some very disturbing opinions like "women shouldn't be country presidents", "Christians and Jews should pay the jizya (a 'protection tax' mandated by the Quran for non-Muslims)", "Christians should not be allowed to have high ranks in the army or in the government" (there are 6 million Christians living in Egypt since the Roman times), "Shariah takes precedence over democracy and human rights", etc.

So in Egypt we have a milder version of what is happening in Syria, were both sides are actually unsavory. Except in Egypt there is much stronger possibility things would evolve towards a functional democracy without too serious convulsions because as unsavory as the [corrupt] government and [radical] Muslim Brotherhood might be, they are not as bad as the Syrian regime and the most prominent groups which oppose it.

[hellheaven1987]

We're also talking about a political organization (the Muslim Brotherhood) which has dabbled into terrorism on many occasions and whose leaders sometimes express some very disturbing opinions like "women shouldn't be country presidents", "Christians and Jews should pay the jizya (a 'protection tax' mandated by the Quran for non-Muslims)", "Christians should not be allowed to have high ranks in the army or in the government" (there are 6 million Christians living in Egypt since the Roman times), "Shariah takes precedence over democracy and human rights", etc.

I don't see the issue here since Egypt is an Islamic state with Islam as state religion.

[squirel]

Jizya is not protection tax.

[Jom]

And the UK's state religion is the Church of England, but the state does not levy extra taxes on those of a different faith, allows women to reach high office (like the head of state), and human rights trump religious laws.

[conon394]

And the UK's state religion is the Church of England, but the state does not levy extra taxes on those of a different faith, allows women to reach high office (like the head of state), and human rights trump religious laws.

Damn right - makes me want run up the Union Jack and go fight for king and country somewhere - besides the US or someplace like Canada (or any other nice dominion).

[hellheaven1987]

And the UK's state religion is the Church of England, but the state does not levy extra taxes on those of a different faith, allows women to reach high office (like the head of state), and human rights trump religious laws.

Right, no wonder no one take UK seriously nowadays.

[Odenat]

And the UK's state religion is the Church of England, but the state does not levy extra taxes on those of a different faith, allows women to reach high office (like the head of state), and human rights trump religious laws.

That's really funny that you bring UK to this discussion. By the way, does UK allow a catholic to become king ? NO !

ooops, here goes we are more civilized argument ....

[Phier]

I'm trying to care but its become very hard. I kept getting told I should care about these things but I also keep getting told my country should not get involved, and when we do get involved we get cool memes about bombs and democracy. So I'm suppose to care, yet I'm suppose to do nothing, but care. Perhaps I should pray, its the only way I know of doing nothing AND showing I care at the same time.

[Lord Thesaurian]

I'm trying to care but its become very hard. I kept getting told I should care about these things but I also keep getting told my country should not get involved, and when we do get involved we get cool memes about bombs and democracy. So I'm suppose to care, yet I'm suppose to do nothing, but care. Perhaps I should pray, its the only way I know of doing nothing AND showing I care at the same time.

When America does stays out of something, the world complains we are cruel and heartless. When America steps in and does something, we are evil capitalist imperialists. Basically all the bad stuff in the world is either directly or indirectly America's fault, and all the good stuff.....well, let's not talk about that. If we are going to get blamed for the world's problems regardless, I'd just as soon tell the world to take care of its own for a change.

[Papay]

When America does stays out of something, the world complains we are cruel and heartless. When America steps in and does something, we are evil capitalist imperialists. Basically all the bad stuff in the world is either directly or indirectly America's fault, and all the good stuff.....well, let's not talk about that. If we are going to get blamed for the world's problems regardless, I'd just as soon tell the world to take care of its own for a change.

US gave the green light to the army to overthrow a legally elected government. So obviously they were involved

[Heinz Guderian]

When America does stays out of something, the world complains we are cruel and heartless. When America steps in and does something, we are evil capitalist imperialists. Basically all the bad stuff in the world is either directly or indirectly America's fault, and all the good stuff.....well, let's not talk about that. If we are going to get blamed for the world's problems regardless, I'd just as soon tell the world to take care of its own for a change.

poor america. cant cut a break can it? no one in this thread so far has blamed america so i dont know why you are mentioning this. After 13 years of invasions, drone massacres, kidnappings, executions, torture, detentions without trial, and constant threats against nations which cant defend themselves (not to grown up countrys like Russia or China mind) i think the world would like for America to chill the **** out and sit the **** down. America suspending aid to Egypt late last year was a great decision btw. more decisions like this plz.