Adding Rock Throwing to Units with Spears/Swords and Shields

[open_sketchbook]

So there is some dummied-out rock throwing in the database, as we've seen from the mod that arms the mob with thrown stones. I've got that working no problem.

Here's deal. I'm trying to make it so that units like Eastern Spearmen and such have a rock-throwing attack; historically, most infantry spent battles chucking stones instead of rushing in to get their stab on. (If you want a good idea what ancient warfare looks like, go watch a riot in progress. Or start one.) So I'm trying to get that going.

The problem is that stuff with Man_Animations that have swords or spears and shields don't work with the throw. I have to convert them to Javelin infantry, in which case it looks like they are trying to throw their spears (and getting a rock) and they look awful in close combat. These units havethrowing animations, from their precursor spears. But I have no idea how to get that to connect.

Does anyone know how to adjust things so that I can these units chucking rocks?

[General George S. Patton]

I believe you need to create a custom animation fragment, but I'm not great with animations, so perhaps someone else could help out here.

[open_sketchbook]

Yeah, I suspected, but I have absolutely no idea where to start there.

(As an aside, I'm trying to make units increase spacing as their morale goes down, representing discipline failing. Is Spacing something that can be dynamically multiplied like that?)

[crzyrndm]

Episode 19 of Magnars tutorials deals with the animation tables. Starting there is probably your best option
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...icers(20-4-14)

RE: Dynamic Spacing
I doubt it. DAVe lists no dependencies for _kv_morale and nothing in that table has any links to spacing.

[open_sketchbook]

Success! I have Eastern Hillmen throwing rocks using the Javelin animation!

My only problem now is that when they throw, a spear appears in their hand. Any suggestions as to what is causing this, or what might fix it?

[Col. Tartleton]

So there is some dummied-out rock throwing in the database, as we've seen from the mod that arms the mob with thrown stones. I've got that working no problem.

Here's deal. I'm trying to make it so that units like Eastern Spearmen and such have a rock-throwing attack; historically, most infantry spent battles chucking stones instead of rushing in to get their stab on. (If you want a good idea what ancient warfare looks like, go watch a riot in progress. Or start one.) So I'm trying to get that going.

The problem is that stuff with Man_Animations that have swords or spears and shields don't work with the throw. I have to convert them to Javelin infantry, in which case it looks like they are trying to throw their spears (and getting a rock) and they look awful in close combat. These units havethrowing animations, from their precursor spears. But I have no idea how to get that to connect.

Does anyone know how to adjust things so that I can these units chucking rocks?

So you're basing your understanding of ancient warfare on mobs of disorganized criminals to get an idea of how trained soldiers fought?

Let me guess, soldiers in the middle ages mostly just threw rocks. And of course rock throwing was at an all time high in the Napoleonic wars. And let us not forget the millions killed in the Great War, one hundred years ago, to well aimed stones...

They had slingers, they didn't throw stones like unruly teenagers.

[Magnar]

So you're basing your understanding of ancient warfare on mobs of disorganized criminals to get an idea of how trained soldiers fought?

Let me guess, soldiers in the middle ages mostly just threw rocks. And of course rock throwing was at an all time high in the Napoleonic wars. And let us not forget the millions killed in the Great War, one hundred years ago, to well aimed stones...

They had slingers, they didn't throw stones like unruly teenagers.

There is mention of the germanic warriors throwing stones in battle and I vaguely remember reading about some rome cavalry training to throw rocks while mounted.