How the fall of communism opens the path to the revival of religion

[Papay]

Religious faith will be of the same significance to the 21st Century as political ideology was to the 20th Century-Tony Blair



After the collapse of the two basic secular ideologies(nationalism-Communism), a vacuum opened that it will be filled by religions. What is your opinion?

[hellheaven1987]

Nope, unless you mean worship of Chaos, which more like simply daily life instead some religious activities.

[Papay]

Nope, unless you mean worship of Chaos, which more like simply daily life instead some religious activities.

How dare disagree with Tony Blair?

[hellheaven1987]

How dare disagree with Tony Blair?

I thought Tony Blair is a Roman Catholic?

You know, as a Catholic I rarely believe any thing my Church said.

Doubt it. If anything, there's going to be less importance in religion.

I don't know, I always find it is more interesting fighting for a deity than fighting for a pettiful nation.

[AqD]

I thought Tony Blair is a Roman Catholic?

You know, as a Catholic I rarely believe any thing my Church said.

That's the point of being Catholic.

[Ciciro]

Doubt it. If anything, there's going to be less importance in religion.

[Ace_General]

ehhh I've been to russia and I have a fair few friends there, and to me, their command of Christianity seems to ble "Jesus and Mary and all the Russian saints are awesome, Jews and Muslims Suck, and i have to go to church on easter, Christmas, and ash Wensday" Like I asked them the story of doubting thomas, or when jesus was tempted in the desert, and I just got blank stares,

In my view, its more of a revival of Nationalism over there, and I think instead of Religion it will be nationalism(or patriotism if your american or if your a european who automatically thinks nationalism is Facism and making brown people dissappear :p)

But when you think about it, England, Russia, the USA, China, Japan, India, turkey, all setting the stage to be major players in the 21st century and they are all either nationalistic or patriotic to a large degree

[hellheaven1987]

ehhh I've been to russia and I have a fair few friends there, and to me, their command of Christianity seems to ble "Jesus and Mary and all the Russian saints are awesome, Jews and Muslims Suck, and i have to go to church on easter, Christmas, and ash Wensday" Like I asked them the story of doubting thomas, or when jesus was tempted in the desert, and I just got blank stares,

In my view, its more of a revival of Nationalism over there, and I think instead of Religion it will be nationalism(or patriotism if your american or if your a european who automatically thinks nationalism is Facism and making brown people dissappear :p)

But when you think about it, England, Russia, the USA, China, Japan, India, turkey, all setting the stage to be major players in the 21st century and they are all either nationalistic or patriotic to a large degree

Probably because you are in Indiana...

Damned it is like everyone here in Indiana is a Republican...

[Ace_General]

Probably because you are in Indiana...

Damned it is like everyone here in Indiana is a Republican...

Im from Da Region (Northwest Indiana) and litterally the Illinois border is across the street from my front door, I ain't one dem igant 'publican baptist racist WASP biblethumpers from the cornfields(though I dated a girl from there and her mother hated me with a passion). I also go to IU bloomington and this is probably the most liberal place in the midwest, not to mention there is alot of Chinese here too

[hellheaven1987]

Im from Da Region (Northwest Indiana) and litterally the Illinois border is across the street from my front door, I ain't one dem igant 'publican baptist racist WASP biblethumpers from the cornfields(though I dated a girl from there and her mother hated me with a passion). I also go to IU bloomington and this is probably the most liberal place in the midwest, not to mention there is alot of Chinese here too

I am in Lafayette and pretty much most white males here that are not a professor is GOP supporter...

[Thorn777]

ehhh I've been to russia and I have a fair few friends there, and to me, their command of Christianity seems to ble "Jesus and Mary and all the Russian saints are awesome, Jews and Muslims Suck, and i have to go to church on easter, Christmas, and ash Wensday" Like I asked them the story of doubting thomas, or when jesus was tempted in the desert, and I just got blank stares,

In my view, its more of a revival of Nationalism over there, and I think instead of Religion it will be nationalism(or patriotism if your american or if your a european who automatically thinks nationalism is Facism and making brown people dissappear :p)

But when you think about it, England, Russia, the USA, China, Japan, India, turkey, all setting the stage to be major players in the 21st century and they are all either nationalistic or patriotic to a large degree

Why do you think England is setting the stage to be a major player in the 21st centurey.

I could see how. Im just curious why you think that.

[A Demented Goldfish]

ehhh I've been to russia and I have a fair few friends there, and to me, their command of Christianity seems to ble "Jesus and Mary and all the Russian saints are awesome, Jews and Muslims Suck, and i have to go to church on easter, Christmas, and ash Wensday" Like I asked them the story of doubting thomas, or when jesus was tempted in the desert, and I just got blank stares,

In my view, its more of a revival of Nationalism over there, and I think instead of Religion it will be nationalism(or patriotism if your american or if your a european who automatically thinks nationalism is Facism and making brown people dissappear :p)

But when you think about it, England, Russia, the USA, China, Japan, India, turkey, all setting the stage to be major players in the 21st century and they are all either nationalistic or patriotic to a large degree

It's Great Britain or the UK, not England, americans...

[nce_wht_guy]

That's why former communist countries are so religious now, right? lol

[Andreius Pretorianus]

I believe a new religion will come to be...racial awarness.Altough I am a Christian Observant,my race comes first aka I disagree of racial mixing,would never do it.

But as times become more darker,people will turn to believing in something be it religion,race,or Putin

[nce_wht_guy]

I believe a new religion will come to be...racial awarness.Altough I am a Christian Observant,my race comes first aka I disagree of racial mixing,would never do it.

But as times become more darker,people will turn to believing in something be it religion,race,or Putin

Lol says the great-grandson of Turks and Mongols.

[Mayer]

No, pls no.
We already have the problem of islamists who run amok since the 70s and infiltrate western societies in order to dominate all people under the sharia.
In Egypt and Syria Christians are murdered, raped and persecuted on a daily basis by religious zealots. Saudi Arabia has just established laws which declare atheists as terrorists whose execution is justified, also Adultery, Apostacy, Homosexuality or even drug use are punished with Public Executions either via Beheading or Stoning.

To counter this threat, I think western society shouldn't become more religious which would just mean that we place ourselves on the same level but instead develop a public consciousness against this menace. A renecaissance of western values and steadfastness against religious fanaticism is desirable.
In addition, the islamic societies are highly unstable and the new generations are critical to theocracy despite the influence of propaganda. They will sooner or later disintegrate.
We can only lose this war of the cultures by our own stupidity.

[Roma_Victrix]

I lived in Kyrgyzstan for two years as a US Peace Corps volunteer, and even though the Russian people there feel obligated to go to their Orthodox church every once in a while, and the Kyrgyz people to their mosques, no one takes religion seriously. At all. Seriously.

To give you an idea about that, the "Muslim" Kyrgyz people drink vodka and beer and eat salami like it's their day job...and their teenage kids date and have sex. I don't think that would fly in Saudi Arabia.

If anything, the world is becoming much more secular, far more so than it was just 50 years ago.

[Sebidee]

Every where is becoming more secular. Religion is no longer needed as an opiate of the masses.

In Ireland religion is almost dead. People are still technically Catholic. They are baptised, confirmed, married and buried by the church but that is just cultural rather than religious.

The university I go to was once the largest Seminary in Ireland with HUNDREDS of seminarians (trainee priests). They still train them in the oldest part of the college. Do you know how many seminarians tere are now? Seven.

[Stavroforos]

Nationalism has collapsed? Nationalism is still very much alive, and religion has been absorbed into nationalist identities.

[Roma_Victrix]

Nationalism has collapsed? Nationalism is still very much alive, and religion has been absorbed into nationalist identities.

Precisely, although people in countries around the world become less nationalist with greater access to communication and technology via globalization/the Internet. Nationalism is, IMO, built upon the total lack of empathy for people in other countries. Humanizing them does much to undermine nationalism.

If anything, with the fall of communism and relative decline of nationalism, a new religion has emerged: the Worship of Apple.