Groups of teenagers have populated the city and literally swarm around people at cash points and force them to hand over their money as the city’s police force calls for the ‘systematic eviction of Roma form the centre of the city’, Parisian newspapers report.
"It’s like musical chairs. We chase the Roma from one place to another, from one arrondissement to another’, a frustrated police chief, Jean-Pierre Colombies told the Daily Mail.
The Roma are entitled under EU law to travel across the European Union and therefore cannot be banned from France or any part of the country.
Police say that many of the Roma gather with children around cash points and deliberately target the vulnerable.
The Roma issue has become a hot potato in France and even the Socialists are critical of the gangs causing havoc in the French capital
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Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
With all due respect, those cops are imbeciles.
Gypsy criminals are only interested in one thing: stealing and they will go wherever it is the easiest to do so. There is nothing you can do to them on this earth short of life in prison or execution to permanently stop a gypsy criminal from plying his "trade", and those two shouldn't even be an option in this day and age. Evicting them will solve nothing, they'll be back within one week, the only way to get rid of them is to hire competent police officers who do their job properly not the avatars of incompetence walking London's and Paris' streets (not saying all London and Paris police officers are incompetent, only that a very large number of them is)
Calling for the the eviction of all gypsies is also highly discriminatory and I really hope they get sued.
Last edited by Sir Adrian; April 22, 2014 at 05:47 AM.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Sir Adrian
With all due respect, those cops are imbeciles.
Gypsy criminals are only interested in one thing: stealing and they will go wherever it is the easiest to do so. There is nothing you can do to them on this earth short of life in prison or execution to permanently stop a gypsy criminal from plying his "trade", and those two shouldn't even be an option in this day and age. Evicting them will solve nothing, they'll be back within one week, the only way to get rid of them is to hire competent police officers who do their job properly not the avatars of incompetence walking London's and Paris' streets (not saying all London and Paris police officers are incompetent, only that a very large number of them is)
Calling for the the eviction of all gypsies is also highly discriminatory and I really hope they get sued.
lol sued. Who cares if they steal, just so long they don't do it in Paris or more preferably, France. That was the point. If they come back, they no longer have to steal to get arrested, just being there is good enough.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Sir Adrian
With all due respect, those cops are imbeciles.
Gypsy criminals are only interested in one thing: stealing and they will go wherever it is the easiest to do so. There is nothing you can do to them on this earth short of life in prison or execution to permanently stop a gypsy criminal from plying his "trade", and those two shouldn't even be an option in this day and age.
Forced relocation and dispersing them to different places and send away their babes for adoption where they can no longer act as a group, could effectively destroy their small society and culture.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by AqD
Forced relocation and dispersing them to different places and send away their babes for adoption where they can no longer act as a group, could effectively destroy their small society and culture.
The mixture of cruelty and innocence in this post terrifies me.
"French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France".
Every Roma gypsy?
Only Gypsy criminals?
No criminals of other races and origin?
Those cops are not imbeciles, they are racist imbeciles.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Impresario
do i detect slight form of racism here, or anti gypsy feeling being openly propagated? it is racist you know that!
I think it's more the typical human reaction "let them be somebody else's problem". Those who used to deport them to Romania or Bulgaria were doing exactly the same thing "let them be Romania and Bulgaria's problem".
The Gypsies are inhabitants of the EU so they should be the EU's problem. Just like the other ethnic or religious groups who don't fully integrate.
Until we have an-EU wide approach to integration, similar in scope, structures involved and funding to the EU-wide approach to protecting the cultural diversity we'll keep having all sorts of issues due to non-integration.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Impresario
do i detect slight form of racism here, or anti gypsy feeling being openly propagated? it is racist you know that!
Umm well people in Eastern Europe are very hateful towards the gypsies. A lot more than in the West. If you think that what the French police is racist, you should see what the Romanian police used to do to them back in the day when they caught them stealing or committing a crime. It's only recently (after 1989) that attempts have been made to adjust the mindset and to try and actually integrate them. But still your average person on the street will still have a discriminatory mindset when it comes to gypsies.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Wallachian
Umm well people in Eastern Europe are very hateful towards the gypsies. A lot more than in the West. If you think that what the French police is racist, you should see what the Romanian police used to do to them back in the day when they caught them stealing or committing a crime. It's only recently (after 1989) that attempts have been made to adjust the mindset and to try and actually integrate them. But still your average person on the street will still have a discriminatory mindset when it comes to gypsies.
Oh I hear it all the time. "When we had miliția, you'd never see Gypsies walking the street at night. Now that Europe and America has come with their human rights everything has turned into ." It's an exaggeration but you get the point.
I won't give an opinion cuz I have no idea how to deal with them as a society. On a personal level, I wouldn't give them the time of day.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Vanoi
Not surprising you support forced relocation. The right has really lost touch with this world.
Yeah because all people on the left and right think exactly the same......
The left right disease in all nations is a divide and conquer technique used by governments to keeep the people in check. There a most of the time many different viewpoints outside of the party lines, but there isn't enough support to support that.
The main issue is that the culture condones it, which cannot be changed by the deportation (or scattering however they do it), because it will push them into a victim mentality because of the innocents affected. Now outside of the reform in Romania, there hasn't been much sucess from either side of improving the conditions or the culture.
The amount of high road (This is the right way or no way) is concerning to say the least.
“However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.” -George Washington
The more political parties are involved, the faster logic dies.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Venomousmonkey
Yeah because all people on the left and right think exactly the same......
The left right disease in all nations is a divide and conquer technique used by governments to keeep the people in check. There a most of the time many different viewpoints outside of the party lines, but there isn't enough support to support that.
The main issue is that the culture condones it, which cannot be changed by the deportation (or scattering however they do it), because it will push them into a victim mentality because of the innocents affected. Now outside of the reform in Romania, there hasn't been much sucess from either side of improving the conditions or the culture.
The amount of high road (This is the right way or no way) is concerning to say the least.
“However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.” -George Washington
The more political parties are involved, the faster logic dies.
You mistake me for being on the left when i am very right in some of my views. Human rights have no political spectrum. Targeting people because of the ethnicity and forcibly relocating them is a complete violation of those rights. Davius is a known right-winger so forgive me if i criticize his very right-wing views on the matter.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Vanoi
You mistake me for being on the left when i am very right in some of my views. Human rights have no political spectrum. Targeting people because of the ethnicity and forcibly relocating them is a complete violation of those rights. Davius is a known right-winger so forgive me if i criticize his very right-wing views on the matter.
Authoritarian. Not right wing. There is a huge difference. There are those that would argue that national socialism was more left wing than right. If you are taking a very narrow view then I'd be inclined to agree but a more complex view puts them firmly in the authoritarian bracket way above anything else.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by Vanoi
You mistake me for being on the left when i am very right in some of my views. Human rights have no political spectrum. Targeting people because of the ethnicity and forcibly relocating them is a complete violation of those rights. Davius is a known right-winger so forgive me if i criticize his very right-wing views on the matter.
I'm just saying mainly "Hey we're not all like that." I disagree with this as much as the next guy. Which is why Romania seems to be a good middle ground, without displacing population.
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
I would imagine if you are a Roma and walking down the street in Roma attire as soon as you see a cop car you would be best hiding in a bush in case you get a beating.
Seriously though I cant walk down the main street of Dublin without a Roma begging me for cash.Maybe I look like I am rich and want to give my cash away or I am unlucky.
They even come into Mc Donalds and demand cash while I eat.That to me is wubbing rude.Do not come between me and a burger.Seriously keep that begging cup away from me
Re: French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
Originally Posted by John ''True Grit'' Wayne
Did somebody say scum?I read over the thread and cant find the word.
I said "you are talking about gypsies as if they were scum".
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Originally Posted by Andreius Pretorianus
...I don t want gipsies coming back to romania so...tough luck france,keep em !!
Originally Posted by AqD
Forced relocation and dispersing them to different places and send away their babes for adoption where they can no longer act as a group, could effectively destroy their small society and culture.
Originally Posted by Aethelwulf Winterfylleth
Good on the French police for speaking sense.
Originally Posted by MrZanyGaming
I'm with the cops on this one. They don't benefit France in any way and increase crime rates wherever they wander.
French cops ask for Roma Gypsies to be evicted from France.
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Originally Posted by Sir Adrian
." It's an exaggeration but you get the point.
