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    Default Change Legion Regions

    Hello:

    I'm a huge fan of Roma Surrectum, sincerely I can't play any other Total War version with the same immersion.

    I kinda disagree with the policy of only being able to recruit some Legions where they fought and other where they were recruited from.

    It's a pain for me to refill a Legion that is half of the campaign map far away from their original region.

    I would like to be able to recruit all legions in every Roman Fortress I build, it sounds more realistic to me (I have a military base in region X, so I can refill any legion in that base).

    My little understanding says me that I have to change the export_descr_buildings.txt or export_descr_buildings_new.txt located in the Play_Rome_One_Turn data folder (the Campaign I'm playing).

    I would like some assistance of someone with more knowledge on this matter and maybe some advise on possible CTD's changing this aspect of RS 2.6.

    Thank you very much, Warfox.

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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    I don't think this is gonna work. As far as I remember the hard-coded limitation to a number of units recruitable in a settlement is something around 30. Being able to recruit all the numbered legions would raise it up to at least 50-60 units, including those other from the legionnaires.

    If you, though, still insist on giving it a go, the files to be modified are export_descr_buildings.txt and descr_regions.txt

    You can check up this thread, in which I inquired about how to change the area of recruitment for the post-martial auxiliary units, the first time I was changing these files.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ent&highlight=

    You basically have to do the same but with the legions instead of the auxiliary, and instead of changing the area of recruitment you must simply remove these features that create it.

    This, however, will likely break your game.

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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    Quote Originally Posted by seleukos99 View Post
    I don't think this is gonna work. As far as I remember the hard-coded limitation to a number of units recruitable in a settlement is something around 30.
    Per building it is, but you can easily make a settlement be able to recruit more then 70 units by making the units recruit elsewhere (walls

    curia ETC), and yes this was tested with ALL mods, with or without a script.

    But why would you want to recruit all of them? Hamata Legions are useless compare to the Segmentata legionaries

    with the arm protectors. They have like base defense of 41 or something compare to a non arm protected legionary who has 39 defense.

    I mean if you want me to help you with the recruit all legionaries and Aux possible, just PM me or something.
    Last edited by Spartan999; April 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM.

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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    Now when I think about it, it is probably enough for you to modify solely the export_descr_buildings.txt since you are not changing the area of recruitment, but removing it.

    The following lines in that file determine in which cities the legion- in this case legio V gemina pia- can be recruited

    recruit "legio x gemina pia" 0 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource area5 and hidden_resource no_way
    recruit "legio x gemina pia first" 1 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource area5 and hidden_resource no_way
    recruit "legio x gemina pia" 0 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource area2 and hidden_resource r8
    recruit "legio x gemina pia first" 1 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource area2 and hidden_resource r8
    recruit "legio x gemina pia" 0 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource area13 and hidden_resource r4
    recruit "legio x gemina pia first" 1 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource area13 and hidden_resource r4
    recruit "legio x gemina pia" 0 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource area13 and hidden_resource r6
    recruit "legio x gemina pia first" 1 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource area13 and hidden_resource r6
    if you want to remove the area of recruitment feature completely, then I believe that this entry should look as follows;

    recruit "legio x gemina pia" 0 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "legio x gemina pia first" 1 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms
    I am not too sure about it, though, and probably there are some other things that you may have to do, as well, like for instance changing the description of regions on the campaign map. Yet, this is not necessary to simply make it work.

    Another thing that you may want to do is to 'enlarge' the area of recruitment for each legion so that in each settlement you would recruit 6-8 legions, instead of 1-4 as it is now. In that instance you should follow directions in the thread I linked here before.
    Last edited by ~Seleukos.I.Nikator~; April 21, 2014 at 04:30 PM.

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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    The problem is indeed with the recruitment queue. If you try and enable all legions in every settlement - you WILL get a CTD.

    The idea, BTW, is that you do recruit all and a mix of legions. The argument of Segmentata vs Hamata has been done to death (and it's simply a shame that the stats aren't just the same). The Manica-equipped legions are also a bit of an anomaly and are there really for flavour; at least their stamina isn't as good.
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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    I mean you can totally do it if you know what your doing. As the recruitment queue can be push to something along

    the line of 70 or more.

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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    i don't understand why you wanna make the game more easy warfox?
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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    Thank you very much for all your answers!

    After reading everything you have said, I think im gonna enable the recruitment of the legions I'm using in the military bases where I need them.

    It's not about making the game easier, but to make it more realistic IMO. My goal is to recruit and use all the legions of all the Area's I have conquered.

    Why should I not being able to refill Legio VII CP Fidelis or Legio XII CP Fidelis or VIII Augusta in a war against the Cimbri?

    I can enable their recruitment in my military base of Vesontio and use it as a base of operations.

    It should be something like this formula, if I'm not mistaken:

    recruit "legio (name)" 0 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource areaX and hidden_resource rYY
    recruit "legio (name) first" 1 requires factions { romans_brutii, } and marian_reforms and hidden_resource areaX and hidden_resource rYY

    Again thank you very much for your support, great community in here

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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    I am playing a 0-turn Roman campaign right now and one of the most fun things has been the way i use named legions and figure out logistics.
    Its awesome.
    I think they are perfect the way they are.

    My most useful legions so far have been the 2 "Claudian" legions.I keep them in Sicily(which has long been conquered) but the island is a major navy hub.Both legions have a fleet assigned which can get them to the front lines very quick.
    They are only used for special operations/fast response and they dont really fight any epic battles but they are always in the right place at the right time.
    Those 2 legions are also the smallest, i only keep 10 cohorts+general on stand by and recruit auxiliaries from the lands they go to.

    Right now they are fighting in Iberia(defending) and there are 4 other legions there as well(3 gallic and 1 african).


    Logistics arent really a problem for me since i made sure i had the best roads and plenty of fleets that can supply the legions in the field.


    Its been really fun to roleplay and this mod is also very immersive.I think its gonna be hard to play other factions after this.

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    Default Re: Change Legion Regions

    maybe its not the point, but it will be easier when you dont need to think about the logistics for keeping your legions up to strenght.
    but anyway thats just an opinion.
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