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    well, well, Eurabia anyone? Seems to me the evidence keeps piling up when it comes to certain extremist elements wanting to islamise te UK or Europe.
    The six schools are implicated in the so-called “Trojan Horse” plot by extremists to “Islamise” secular state education in Birmingham which has allegedly seen the illegal segregation of pupils and discrimination against non-Muslim pupils.
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    Islamist plot: six schools face Ofsted special measures

    Six schools implicated in the so-called 'Trojan Horse' plot by extremists to 'Islamise' secular state education face being placed in special measures

    At least six Birmingham schools at the centre of an alleged Islamic takeover plot are set to be placed in “special measures” by Ofsted in a move that could see their entire leadership removed.

    The six schools are implicated in the so-called “Trojan Horse” plot by extremists to “Islamise” secular state education in Birmingham which has allegedly seen the illegal segregation of pupils and discrimination against non-Muslim pupils.

    The Telegraph understands the six will be rated “inadequate” by the schools inspectorate after a series of snap inspections over the past few weeks. The label usually leads to “special measures”, which in turn give Ofsted the power to remove senior managers or even close the schools.

    Ofsted will also take action, although less drastic, at a further nine schools in the city where the attempted Islamic takeover is less advanced, or where secular head teachers are resisting it. Only one of the 17 schools inspected by Ofsted so far in connection with the alleged plot has received a clean bill of health, although one report is yet to be completed.

    One source said: “Almost all of the reports to a greater or lesser extent are pointing out flaws in leadership, management or safeguarding driven by an Islamist political ideology. Sometimes the flaws are light. In some cases they are very severe. Those to be put in special measures are those where [radical] governors are effectively running the school.”

    Separately, senior sources at the Department for Education (DfE) say they have established an “overlapping web of connections” in the schools affected, with a “driving force which appears to be explicitly Islamist”. This is despite some prominent figures in Birmingham attempting to cast doubt on the credibility of the allegations.
    In the reports, to be published at the same time next month, Ofsted will grade Park View; Golden Hillock; Nansen; Oldknow and Saltley schools in Birmingham as “inadequate” for leadership and management, the lowest possible ranking. A sixth school, Alston, is already in special measures.
    Springfield; Adderley; Regents Park; Highfield; Gracelands; Ladypool; Marlborough; Montgomery and Waverley schools will be graded as “requiring improvement” in leadership and management, the second-lowest rank, and given enhanced monitoring and support. No concerns were found at Ninestiles. The report on one further school, Washwood Heath, is still being completed. A number of other schools in Birmingham are likely to be inspected after Easter.
    One school on the list has confirmed that it had been targeted. In a message to parents, Adderley said several head teachers had informed the authorities of “malicious and targeted campaigns to remove them” and that attempts have been made “to destabilise the school by a very small but well organised group of individuals”.
    It added: “The governors, head teacher, senior leadership team and staff have been robust in ensuring that Adderley remains a multicultural school providing a safe and positive learning environment for all of our 630 children.”
    The verdicts of the Ofsted reports are almost certain to mean that Tahir Alam, the hardline Muslim Council of Britain activist accused of being the “Trojan Horse” plot’s ringleader, is removed from his roles as chairman of governors at Park View, chairman of the Park View Educational Trust, which also runs Nansen and Golden Hillock, and from his post as a governor of Highfield. His key allies at many of the schools affected are also likely to be removed. Mr Alam denies any involvement in any plot, calling it a “witch-hunt” and “fabrication”.
    A separate report, by inspectors from the DfE, has substantiated many of the allegations. The report, disclosed in The Telegraph on Friday, accused Park View, Nansen and Golden Hillock of illegally segregating pupils, discriminating against non-Muslim students and “restricting” the GCSE syllabus to “comply with conservative Islamic teaching”.
    The report said girls at Park View and Golden Hillock were made to sit at the back of the class; some Christian pupils at Golden Hillock were left to “teach themselves” and at Park View a supporter of al-Qaeda was invited to speak at assembly. Aspects of the GCSE curriculum were ignored as un-Islamic, even though needed by pupils for exams.
    Lindsey Clark, Park View’s respected executive head, who retired last week, is one of five non-Muslim head teachers in a small area of Birmingham to leave her job in the past six months. The DfE report makes clear that Mrs Clark, who over 11 years took Park View to an Ofsted rating of “outstanding”, had been reduced to a figurehead.
    At Oldknow, another school to be placed in special measures, Bhupinder Kondal, the non-Muslim head teacher, was forced from her job despite also achieving an “outstanding” Ofsted rating.
    At Springfield, staff told The Telegraph Christopher Webb, the successful secular head teacher, is under “non-stop attack” by radical members of the governing body. Separately, Mr Webb has received death threats.
    A small number of individuals linked to either Mr Alam, a Birmingham charity called the al-Hijrah Trust or an online group called Educational Activists are present in most of the schools affected. In messages leaked to The Sunday Telegraph, members of the Educational Activists group discussed how they would pursue an “Islamising agenda” in schools.
    Michael Gove, the Education Secretary, last week controversially appointed Peter Clarke, the former head of counter-terrorism at Scotland Yard, to investigate the issue. Ministers and DfE officials were understood to be frustrated at what one senior figure called “the wilful attempt at every stage to minimise what is happening” by local leaders in Birmingham.
    The city council was aware of growing pressure on head teachers almost six months ago, but only acted after an anonymous letter purporting to reveal details of the plot was published. Many teachers have told The Sunday Telegraph their complaints to the council were ignored.
    Mark Rogers, the chief executive of the council, claimed only two weeks ago that there was no conspiracy, merely “new communities” raising “legitimate questions and challenges” to the “liberal education system”.
    However, the council has now frozen the recruitment of school governors and set up an inquiry of its own.
    Ofsted is understood to be highly critical of the council’s performance. However, parents and Tristram Hunt, the shadow education secretary, said Mr Gove’s policies were also to blame. Many of the schools affected have converted to academies, greatly limiting the local authority’s control over how they are run.

    Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...-measures.html

    hohoho
    the scary thing is that this is only the case that was discovered, what about the other cases which carry on silently?

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    Do other cases carry on silently?

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    what's hilarious is that the british bought it upon themselves by being too politically correct; allowing these religious fundamentalist :wub:s into the country and letting them spout out their religious BS, whilst tiptoeing around them because Britons were too afraid of being labelled 'racist'

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    A perfect example of why we need to fight tooth and nail to maintain and advance the secularisation of our schools. From petty religious lip service common in many schools to this ridiculous unrestrained contempt for our national standards and values. Its not the fault of the muslim population of the areas - muslim parents played a large part in revealing the indoctrination of their children - its the fault of certain extremist organisations that due to this country's disregard for the importance of educational secularisation are able to get any kind of foothold into schools in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsby View Post
    A perfect example of why we need to fight tooth and nail to maintain and advance the secularisation of our schools.
    Most schools have been secularized, I mean secularized from christianity, the religion of bigotry, homophobia, persecutions and war, and intolerance, but to propose secularization from islam the religion of peace is something very racist to even propose, and xenophobic, and inconsiderate to immigrants.

    See the difference?
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    Aw, saw this news yesterday, thought of putting them here, but seems you got ahead of me exarch



    Most schools have been secularized, I mean secularized from christianity, the religion of bigotry, homophobia, persecutions and war, and intolerance, but to propose secularization from islam the religion of peace is something very racist to even propose, and xenophobic, and inconsiderate to immigrants.

    See the difference?
    Yes it is irritating that for some reason we haven't quite gotten over this cultural mindset that christianity=white people and islam=brown people. We need to accept that it is possible to criticise the role that the religion plays in our society without any feelings about the ethnicity of its adherents. Islam is not a race, even though that is the unfortunate opinion of most of the British population, we don't say "a Pakistani immigrant" or "a Bangladeshi immigrant" we tend to just say " a muslim immigrant". We need to get over primarily identifying immigrants by their faith because this causes the tentative beating around the bush that has allowed this issue to progress so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fkizz View Post
    Aw, saw this news yesterday, thought of putting them here, but seems you got ahead of me exarch



    Most schools have been secularized, I mean secularized from christianity, the religion of bigotry, homophobia, persecutions and war, and intolerance, but to propose secularization from islam the religion of peace is something very racist to even propose, and xenophobic, and inconsiderate to immigrants.

    See the difference?

    They are both Abrahamic, so the differences are cosmetic. Practically Christians tend to ignore the passages that call for the annihilation of every living person, and for child rape, but they are their (The punishment for a city that has believers and non-believers in it is genocide, with the only survivors being prepubescent girls, who depending on which passage you read are either to be gang raped, or taken as forced brides, even allowing one non-believer into a settlement is enough, all must die for that)

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    I am so surprised, just like when I learned Best Korea was evil the other day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    I am so surprised, just like when I learned Best Korea was evil the other day.
    Best Korea, are you implying there is more than one?

    @Markus: Tbf this is England the sky is grey not blue.

    Still at the moment this only allegedly and while its a concern if true that's yet to be proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tom View Post
    @Markus: Tbf this is England the sky is grey not blue.
    Naw. The sky is still blue. The clouds are grey though. ^_^
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    Just curious, how were the schools doing in standardized testing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    Just curious, how were the schools doing in standardized testing?
    Read the article. It talks about changes the schools made to the curriculum, including removing material required for GSCEs.
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    Read the article. It talks about changes the schools made to the curriculum, including removing material required for GSCEs.
    That doesn't say how well they did though does it? I recall reading a study of US schools in which children taught creationism in religious schools did just as well on national science tests at children in public schools, IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    That doesn't say how well they did though does it? I recall reading a study of US schools in which children taught creationism in religious schools did just as well on national science tests at children in public schools, IIRC.
    See that's the thing. My question for those schools was always about where the subjects were taught. The major controversies that always make it big is when they try to hammer it into the science classroom and thus by default push the science topic out because there is now less time to teach the subjects necessary. Especially when the religious people run for the education board and try to take over the curriculum(remember Kitzmiller v. Dover?). The controversy was never whether they wanted to teach it at all, say, in a general religion course...where it belonged.
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    They are both Abrahamic, so the differences are cosmetic. Practically Christians tend to ignore the passages that call for the annihilation of every living person, and for child rape, but they are their (The punishment for a city that has believers and non-believers in it is genocide, with the only survivors being prepubescent girls, who depending on which passage you read are either to be gang raped, or taken as forced brides, even allowing one non-believer into a settlement is enough, all must die for that)
    Putting to one side the fact that there is a reason why they call it the 'New' Testament - your strawman comparison with Christianity you wheel out every time is just more superficial political correctness. Let's say your interpretation of Christianity is spot on 100 per cent correct. You would be the only person that believes it. There are not tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of people that believe it, nobody except you believes it. There are no Christian scholars or priests wandering around on Youtube supporting that viewpoint. Whereas in Islam, you can find 100s if not 1000s of imams preaching Islamic militant supremacism. You can find millions of pages written about it. You can find all sorts of Islamic scholars, revered Islamic scholars like Maududi from Pakistan preaching how Islam will rule the world and how, no one but muslims have the *right* to have any power, and, that power must be taken from all non-muslims with violence.

    In contrast, the worrying supremacist beliefs of Islam are well followed, are followed by sovereign states with the backing of military might, tax dollars, oil money, with textbooks from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia sent free to Islamic children right round the world - with lesson plans that teach children the contemptible qualities of the Jew. The Middle Eastern press has caricatures of the evil money grubbing jew on a daily basis, and that anti-Jewish propaganda in the Middle East is far worse than the Third Reich on its worst day.

    Islam is lucky that political correctness offers Islam a fig leaf for now - but the 'not all muslims' mantra is wearing very thin. The best excuse makers are the left, Islam would be no problem at all if they did not have the left to enable them.
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    Islam is lucky that political correctness offers Islam a fig leaf for now - but the 'not all muslims' mantra is wearing very thin. The best excuse makers are the left, Islam would be no problem at all if they did not have the left to enable them.
    Pretty much, I've noticed the pattern of foreign leftists often attacking Christianity and christian faith for being misogynist and backwards and that atheism is best while negatively stereotyping christians and then right after defending Islam as the religion of peace, while making apologism of any criticism "not all muslims are like that" - makes me wonder if their agenda is leftism or something else is behind fueling them as the higher aim.

    At any rate, the anti christianity atheists are proving to be very useful to the Kings of Saudi Arabia; for their best efforts in downplaying a rival religion to Islam.

    But that said, the saudi arabia elite truly lives the high life in their ivory tower, having wealth of the legends of old thanks to selling oil. If they only had a more neutral position..
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    Quote Originally Posted by fkizz View Post
    Pretty much, I've noticed the pattern of foreign leftists often attacking Christianity and christian faith for being misogynist and backwards and that atheism is best while negatively stereotyping christians and then right after defending Islam as the religion of peace, while making apologism of any criticism "not all muslims are like that" - makes me wonder if their agenda is leftism or something else is behind fueling them as the higher aim.
    Care to cite any examples of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fkizz View Post
    Pretty much, I've noticed the pattern of foreign leftists often attacking Christianity and christian faith for being misogynist and backwards and that atheism is best while negatively stereotyping christians and then right after defending Islam as the religion of peace, while making apologism of any criticism "not all muslims are like that" - makes me wonder if their agenda is leftism or something else is behind fueling them as the higher aim.

    At any rate, the anti christianity atheists are proving to be very useful to the Kings of Saudi Arabia; for their best efforts in downplaying a rival religion to Islam.

    But that said, the saudi arabia elite truly lives the high life in their ivory tower, having wealth of the legends of old thanks to selling oil. If they only had a more neutral position..
    This has to be the biggest piece of I've read in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fkizz View Post
    Pretty much, I've noticed the pattern of foreign leftists often attacking Christianity and christian faith for being misogynist and backwards and that atheism is best while negatively stereotyping christians and then right after defending Islam as the religion of peace, while making apologism of any criticism "not all muslims are like that" - makes me wonder if their agenda is leftism or something else is behind fueling them as the higher aim.

    At any rate, the anti christianity atheists are proving to be very useful to the Kings of Saudi Arabia; for their best efforts in downplaying a rival religion to Islam.

    But that said, the saudi arabia elite truly lives the high life in their ivory tower, having wealth of the legends of old thanks to selling oil. If they only had a more neutral position..

    I don't defend it, I just see it as no worse than any other Abrahamic death cult. A lot of it's adherents are moral in spite of it, but some are muderous loons, which puts them behind the curve of by the standards of the faiths.

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