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    Old Map (a lot of provinces to manage)


    New Map!! (Condense provinces into Ducal level titles)


    Note how the provinces have been condensed into Ducal holding (a few of them are still counties since the rest of the duchy is controlled by an NPC)

    This will in no way affect anyone's current holdings. This is only meant to make map editing easier and to make the map appear more simple and less of a job. Especially for me.

    Instead of a province list, I will add a bunch of CK2 screenshots that show where the provinces are (similar to what we did in GoT).
    Wars will still be conducted province by province conquest. Not ducal to ducal title.

    The map will be edited to include more ducal level titles as they are taken from NPCs. This is just the up to date map so far with the white being what we currently have.

    What do you guys think?
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    Default Re: Updated Map

    It's nice, I believe you should add a key so people know where everything is?


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    A key will eventually come. But I am done with maps for tonight, probably work on a key tomorrow.
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    Default Re: Updated Map

    I would of rather had ducal titles with counties still established
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_General View Post
    I would of rather had ducal titles with counties still established
    Having a map of counties too much for me to edit Ace. That's why I took screenshots of the counties and placed those in the rules, with the official map is what is above and in the Map thread. That is much easier for me to edit and manage than a map with some 100+ provinces.
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    Also, given how the whole Indus river delta was conquered in a matter of months, I think there will be an unholy counterattack by the Hindus and widespread revolts.

    Have you looked into possibly having some kind of Stability or overextension modifier for the game?
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    Looks nice, although why are the Ghurid remnant provinces in the list besides for their Afghanistan ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xion View Post
    Looks nice, although why are the Ghurid remnant provinces in the list besides for their Afghanistan ones?
    Any provinces that are currently in our list are the most likely provinces where a player may be expanding in the near future in this RP. The map editing process is long and tedious and in order to not overwhelm LM who is redoing the map, we are splitting it up into a few sections at a time and only showing the screenshots for them right now. We hope to get the rest of India made into the Ducal regions but right now we are only focusing on getting the closet regions relative to our Rp finished first.

    How quickly the rest of India will depend on LM and how much time that he has.


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    Default Re: Updated Map

    Do you still have a copy of an uncolored province map?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_General View Post
    Also, given how the whole Indus river delta was conquered in a matter of months, I think there will be an unholy counterattack by the Hindus and widespread revolts.

    Have you looked into possibly having some kind of Stability or overextension modifier for the game?
    I did state earlier that the moderators are working on annexation and conquest rulers which would involve a system of revolts and modifiers.
    We didn't get far with it mainly because of the problems with the sheer amount of provinces. Now that that is fixed and compressed, I know that HB and I were able to think up a small outline which I will be furthering discussing with him tomorrow.

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    Do you still have a copy of an uncolored province map?
    Yes I do.
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    Cause I don't know what program you use, but for me it would be really easy to edit provinces if I had such a map. The province map is more detailed and gives a better view over what territory a person holds so I prefer it. Also in provincial conquest, you'd need to find the old borders again, which is annoying I can suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheatley View Post
    Cause I don't know what program you use, but for me it would be really easy to edit provinces if I had such a map. The province map is more detailed and gives a better view over what territory a person holds so I prefer it. Also in provincial conquest, you'd need to find the old borders again, which is annoying I can suspect.
    Well check out the rules. I have screenshots of provinces from CK2 and a picture of de jure territories in the recent addition. I also have the old province map on my documents as well as the listed of provinces. It won't be that annoying since I have all that I need for now.

    And I use Gimp as my editing tool.
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    I will say that I do not have the time to go about re-editing every province in the map to ducal territories. The editing alone for this new map took me a good 2 - 3 hours to fully complete last night. I would rather adjust territories as they are brought into the fold by other player's wars with NPCs. To redo the entire map would be too overwhelming for me to do.
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    Why can't we just use the county maps? So long as the file types are kept PNG, it's really easy to edit, just use Paint and use the fill bucket. Perhaps players could be responsible for their own map updates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agamemnon View Post
    Why can't we just use the county maps? So long as the file types are kept PNG, it's really easy to edit, just use Paint and use the fill bucket. Perhaps players could be responsible for their own map updates?
    Personally, Aggy, its much harder than you think. Because once people take over whole regions, I need to adjust where the words are in case someone takes over a province where an NPC nation's name is. Then add on a new system of numbers to identify them with.

    That's why we just added in screenshots of the provinces from CK2 into the rules.
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    Default Re: Updated Map

    I see. You could do what we've always done in IH and WR, and just colored the provinces without any names on them and then put a key underneath. Province numbers I'm not so sure about, but it wouldn't be much worse than it is now.

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