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    Default Indian politician: Women who are raped should be hanged with their rapists

    http://metro.co.uk/2014/04/13/women-...ician-4697828/

    A senior member of India’s Socialist Party, Abu Azmi, apparently said he wanted women who were forced to have sex against their will to be put to death at the same time as their attackers.

    ‘Rape is punishable by hanging in Islam but here, nothing happens to women, only to men. Even the woman is guilty,’ he told NDTV news.

    ‘Any woman if, whether married or unmarried, goes along with a man, with or without her consent, should be hanged.

    ‘Both should be hanged. It shouldn’t be allowed even if a woman goes by consent.’
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    The party’s leader, Mulayam Singh Yadav, also argued men who were convicted of rape should be forgiven as ‘boys will be boys’.

    ‘Following a girl-boy fight, the girl complains she was raped,’ he added at an election event on Thursday.

    He said if he won the election and became prime minister, the law that punishes rape with death would be abolished.

    Mr Azmi’s son Farhan has since apologised for the statements his father made, the Independent reported.
    Quite speechless, really. These vile scums don't deserve to live among humans.

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    I hope there is some translation error here cause if what you quoted is what he ment he is saying all woman should be put to death for having sex lol. Some1 needs to remind him dudes can't procreate on thier own.

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    this Ape doesn't even know what the he's talking about.

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    Just to further stress how repugnantly this reflects on India, the Socialist Party is the leading party in Uttar Pradesh, the most populous state in India. No wonder the country has a rape problem.
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    I sincerley don t care.It s their culture,their thinking ,who are we to change it ?

    Truth and good,go 2 ways,no one holds the supreme answer to none.

    In european/american politics,our politicians make pro homosexual propaganda and other disgusting things(in my opinion of course) like that.What gives them the rights to criticise other disgusting things like killing raped women ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreius Pretorianus View Post
    I sincerley don t care.It s their culture,their thinking ,who are we to change it ?

    Truth and good,go 2 ways,no one holds the supreme answer to none.

    In european/american politics,our politicians make pro homosexual propaganda and other disgusting things(in my opinion of course) like that.What gives them the rights to criticise other disgusting things like killing raped women ?
    I really hope you are just teenager trolling because if you can't see the moral difference between allowing a consensual relationship and punishing a women for being attacked or having the desire to you know go put in public - you are a lost cause and waste of time.
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    Stuff like this makes me angry at "enlightened" and "spiritual" and "college kid" people in Europe complaining about living in backwards Europe and not in an enlightened spiritual culturally superior country like India...

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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    I really hope you are just teenager trolling because if you can't see the moral difference between allowing a consensual relationship and punishing a women for being attacked or having the desire to you know go put in public - you are a lost cause and waste of time.
    In a way he is right, opinions like this are fairly common across the subcontinent hence I do not believe there is any reason to be alarmed by this. That being said, at least India is making progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthLazy View Post
    In a way he is right, opinions like this are fairly common across the subcontinent hence I do not believe there is any reason to be alarmed by this. That being said, at least India is making progress.
    Perhaps and I accept that slut shaming and she was asking for it wearing the wrong close still happens in the US... but If accurate those are sentiments (Quoted in the OP) I simply cannot accept or contextualize as a valid modern or any time really view by any rational person. It is simply beyond acceptable to blame any person for an attack against their will. Making progress would having those positions resingn now and admit that are ass hats
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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    Perhaps and I accept that slut shaming and she was asking for it wearing the wrong close still happens in the US... but If accurate those are sentiments (Quoted in the OP) I simply cannot accept or contextualize as a valid modern or any time really view by any rational person. It is simply beyond acceptable to blame any person for an attack against their will. Making progress would having those positions resingn now and admit that are ass hats
    The India I know, indeed pretty much the entire subcontinent (plus Afghanistan), is deeply patriarchal and misogynistic, it's almost culturally embedded into the "fabric of society" so to speak. It's a slow process, and there are going to be this sort of two steps forward, one step back for a while. It's fairly straight forward for clowns like him to get into a position of power, simply because what he says is still deeply rooted in many people.
    On the bright side, he's attempting to backpedal faster than a horse can run without losing too much face, and even his son and daughter-in-law are "deeply embarassed and ashamed". Such words mean a lot in India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreius Pretorianus View Post
    I sincerley don t care.It s their culture,their thinking ,who are we to change it ?
    Humans. We are humans. Humans who understand the idea that it's ed up to say someone should be hanged over a traumatic event they didn't have control of, let alone just the act that is responsible for our very existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreius Pretorianus View Post
    I sincerley don t care.It s their culture,their thinking ,who are we to change it ?

    Truth and good,go 2 ways,no one holds the supreme answer to none.

    In european/american politics,our politicians make pro homosexual propaganda and other disgusting things(in my opinion of course) like that.What gives them the rights to criticise other disgusting things like killing raped women ?
    As humans we all have the right to criticise and attempt to put a stop to injustice whenever we see it. And putting a woman who has been raped to death is so self-evidently repugnant that saying 'it's their culture' just won't cut it. This is the kind of thinking that had led to international tolerance for the horrific lives endured by women across the middle east and Asia. India is improving and particularly since the infamous bus rape and murder it has been a subject of international pressure, but there's a long, long way to go.
    Also, feminism must stop being confined to the higher social demographics. Across the world, including the developed world, sexism is much worse in poorer and less educated sectors of society.

    Just to give an idea of who we're fighting in Afghanistan: http://www.rawa.org/rules.htm

    And homophobia in the 21st century, seriously?
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    india is a democracy, therefore nothing indian politicians do can ever, ever be bad.

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    According to this guy, Abu Azmi, black is white, up is down, and women who are raped are the guilty ones.

    In that case, when a mugger steals my wallet on the street, I should be charged with mugging!

    When another driver on the road crashes into my car, I should have to pay him compensation and my insurance rates should go up.

    When a serial killer murders half my family, he should gain everyone's sympathy and I should go to jail for the rest of my life or be sentenced to death for his crimes.

    You know, that sort of thing.

    And if I were to go up to Abu Azmi on the street and smash his face in with a baseball bat for saying this, he should go to court on charges of assault and battery, paying me huge amounts of money in a civil lawsuit! How dare he attack my baseball bat with his face?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roma_Victrix View Post
    In that case, when a mugger steals my wallet on the street, I should be charged with mugging!
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    When I read this the other day, I felt rather shocked given the nature of some horrific rapes that had occurred in India in the last three years. One of which resulted in the death of the person raped since the rapist was one of five who had gang raped her then had tortured the victim and perforated her orifice with a metal instrument and she bled to death.

    In previous decades, I've known many young people who traveled to diverse places including India, and when concerned about traveling there, I always told them they were generally far safer in foreign countries than in America, for crime especially sexual crimes were much lower back then.

    Rape is seldom about sex and more about power and controlling some woman or women in order to make them submit, often for a personal slight, but in recent years in order to shame them due to religious reasons or due to them asserting their political rights.

    Of course, we tend to sweep these ugly things under the rug, and in two weeks, most will forget they happened...until the next time. There's been a lot of next times in India.

    Sadly, there is a very high incidence of related sex crimes like slavery rings, child abuse, child prostitution in India.

    Look, America has some awful related problems, so I'm not throwing stones. But when a politician makes a statement about punishing victims, it's grotesque and barbaric.
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    I read this story a few days ago. Even his own son and daughter in law who is an actress spoke out against the guy and hes now backtracking as fast as he can saying that of course he didn't mean the women should be hung too.

    One shouldn't read too much into what one guy says and paint an entire billion people with the brush.
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    but how are we going to feel superior to brown people if we can't laugh at their backward ways?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    but how are we going to feel superior to brown people if we can't laugh at their backward ways?
    Isn't ourmy fair white skin sufficient?

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    Another more modern approach is of course to feel morally superior based on not being a sexist bastard and ignore silly things like skin colour.


    Edit: Forgot that you probably belong to the yellowish-brownish subgroup. Sorry!

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