Its better if each dlc also provides new unique cities for the factions that are going to be playable....
Its better if each dlc also provides new unique cities for the factions that are going to be playable....
Last edited by jamreal18; April 20, 2014 at 08:08 PM.
There will be no Ancient Greek dlc, because it doesn't fit in the timeframe of the base game, which is about the roman republic transitioning into the empire. And not enough Greek factions? There are four playable Greek City States, not including the five Hellenic successor kingdoms.
Personally id like to see culture packs for those factions that haven't even been explored, such as the Balkans,the Caucus and desert nomadic tribes. And the more dlc campaigns the better! A conquest of Britain campaign would be just smashingsmashing
This makes sense to me. Paid DLCs should really focus on those parts of the map that are currently ignored (to be fair, the Hannibal DLC did just this by unlocking the Iberians). The main priority for me right now is a 'Balkans' type DLC, focusing on the Odrysians, the Getae, maybe Triballi/Tylis, and an Illyrian faction. After that, something on Armenia and the Caucus. If it's going to be Greeks, I want to see something that deals with the Greek colonies - Massilia, Cimmeria, etc.
Regarding the British, the Germans and the mainland Greek cities, I'm always happy to get extra content (new units, more factions unlocked, etc.). However, this should really be free content (in the same way that they added those extra units to the BoW DLC recently and buffed the Epirus roster, albeit slightly, a few weeks back).
Last edited by Ishan; April 24, 2014 at 03:28 AM. Reason: off-topic
The funny thing here is that we are already waiting for the announcement of the next dlc...
Thread cleaned and reopened. Lets keep this on-topic which is about "Conquest of Britain" and events around it. You may post which DLC you would rather prefer, however you will not argue why this speculated DLC shouldn't be released or how Celts are filthy barbarians and ancient Greeks are superior. Open a separate topic in VV if someone wants to discuss civilizations.
Last edited by Ishan; April 24, 2014 at 03:33 AM.
Just look at the historical battles we know are going to appear at some point in the R2 content release cycle to see where the DLC campaigns are headed... no speculation needed.
Next stop the Battle of Watling Street... and as such the Roman Conquest of Britain.
Also as Boudia fought (lead) the battle against the Roman General Gaius Paulinus I don't see how there can not be a female general in this DLC.
Does anyone that isn't from Britain think the campaign there is interesting?? It's allready worse enough that there are to many movies about the Romans vs. Britain, like it was their priority and they sended everything they got in their entire empire to conquer it, while actually even the Romans had better things to do then playing arround in Britain, so why would we even bother besides the people that are from Britain.
Or because it became a colonial empire 1.800 years later and by changing the history back in the Roman era changes that?? In Empire Britain was fun to play and really important, but back in the Roman era there just where other superpowers that where much more interesting...
Last edited by Swamidude; April 29, 2014 at 02:33 AM.
Does anyone that isn't from Gaul think the campaign there is interesting?? It's allready worse enough that there are to many movies about the Romans vs. Gaul, like it was their priority and they sended everything they got in their entire empire to conquer it, while actually even the Romans had better things to do then playing arround in Gaul.
I always find it intriguing when people complain about British film and game producers daring to focus on their own history, as if their counterparts in other countries don't (or wouldn't given the chance). Just because English is currently the primary international language doesn't mean British or Americans are required to do everything from an inclusive, international perspective. I guess in a hundred years blogs will be whining the same way in Mandarin about Sino-centrism. Actually Britain had one of the heaviest troop concentrations (relative to population) in the empire, and was an object of Roman fascination as being beyond Oceanus - the end of the world. Dio and/or Tacitus make it clear Caractacus was quite the international celebrity/villian. And Boudicca tapped right into the Romans' misogynistic sadism.
Having said that: I do feel Caesar in Gaul already kinda did this one. I would rather have had a Dacian campaign - and it's about time the Parthians/Sassanids got some appropriate love. The one box this probable British DLC does tick for me is that I was hoping the next one would be an Imperial campaign.
You'll probably get your wish sooner or later as they're at least 4 slots prepared for upcoming DLC. Not sure what or when though.
I am "from Gaul" and honestly I think a campaign focused on imperial conquest of Britannia would have been better as a first choice. It was a long event and as such it mix better with the TW formula. It could represent the first expedition, it halts with a first phase of economical and infrastructure development (the early game), then the conquest of its historical limits (medium game) and the attempt to fully conquer the island (the late game). On the opposite CiG plays like it spawned for 100 years where you turn backward village into highly dynamical urban center and even research technology. HatG was barely better. TW has never been able to represent well a specific military campaign in a long TW campaign. When specific conflicts are well represented in a TW that's usually because the conflict lasted for almost one century with huge phase of low/extremely low intensity engagements.
On a larger picture Britannia/Britain has the advantage to be an Island/archipelago where events can developed with nearly no external involvement. Pretty much how happened the Roman conquest there or the Anglo-Saxon conquest. The same can not be said of Gaul/France and many others area. So I would take a campaign focused on Britain rather than France nearly every time.
Now I do agree a Britannia DLC for R2 would be a little redundant with CiG. I deplore it. CiG background isn't that good for a TW but hey : it got Caesar ! That's exactly the kind of Childish decisions I dislike with CA lately and everything they have made with R2. Zero good design decisions.
PS : No. The Romans did not throw everything they got to conquer Gaul. this was not even needed. Funnily enough, large contingent of Roman troops were raised from the earlier conquered Provencia (modern day Provence - South West coast of France).
Last edited by Anna_Gein; April 29, 2014 at 03:08 AM.
I have a Suspicion that the next DLC might be a Anthony and Cleopatra
...ok, because of the loading screens? A civil war scenario with Egypt (and I think other?) eastern factions dragged in. That would be cool.
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I think we will see this friday or thursday if I was right.
I am certain that patch 12 will go live and the next DLC will be announced.
I think you will find these campains seperated into two individual DLC`s.
The Civil War DLC will not add any new factions but the eastern conquest DLC will add Armenia and Media Apronane as playable factions.
Last edited by Ishan; April 29, 2014 at 05:30 PM. Reason: Double Post
Personally, I would be hard pressed to pay for a Boudica or Conquest of Britannia campaign. No offense, but it simply doesn't fascinate me at all. Claudius invaded Britannia simply as a propaganda coup (while Caesar did the same in Gaul, it set a spiral of events that lead to the Roman Civil War). I would rather see something of consequence like Trajan's invasion of Dacia. The Dacians had formed alliances with the Roxolani and Bastarnae and constantly threatened the Roman position south of the Danube. Caesar was assassinated while planning for an invasion, Domitian fought them but accepted a humiliating peace, and it took Trajan two wars to finally defeat their king. Even after then, most of Dacia remained unconquered and the Roman position north of the Danube remained extremely tenuous leading to the Romans building castrae all over the place. After a century of continued fighting with the Carpi, Costobocii, Izyages, Bastarnae, and Roxolani, the arrival of the Goths made the Romans finally realize that enough is enough and for the first time in history, they were forced to withdraw from a province that they had made a serious effort to settle and colonize.
I'm a bit biased because I live in Romania but yeah cmon, it's a great story for an Imperial Era campaign.
Boudica's revolt can be summed up in a single historical battle.
Last edited by Darios; April 30, 2014 at 08:34 AM.
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