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    Default Ex Special Forces operator kills three outside Jewish community centre in Kansas.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/us/kansas-jewish-center-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    Seriously, how could a life long political extremist make it through the vetting process for SF? I understand this was decades ago but still, this had to have raised some red flags. On top of that, why was this man not in jail already?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/us/kansas-jewish-center-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    Seriously, how could a life long political extremist make it through the vetting process for SF? I understand this was decades ago but still, this had to have raised some red flags. On top of that, why was this man not in jail already?!
    He's 73. He set up the KKK branch in the 1980s, when he was in his 40s. He would have been in, and probably out of, the military long before then.


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    Default Re: Ex Special Forces operator kills three outside Jewish community centre in Kansas.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreyFox View Post
    He's 73. He set up the KKK branch in the 1980s, when he was in his 40s. He would have been in, and probably out of, the military long before then.
    Yes, but he's been associated with the radical right since childhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Yes, but he's been associated with the radical right since childhood.
    You are trying way to hard here.
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    Default Re: Ex Special Forces operator kills three outside Jewish community centre in Kansas.

    He also joined in the late 50s early 60s before there were easy background checks.
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    Far-Right jackboot fetishist cretin. Condolences to the victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/us/kansas-jewish-center-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    Seriously, how could a life long political extremist make it through the vetting process for SF? I understand this was decades ago but still, this had to have raised some red flags. On top of that, why was this man not in jail already?!
    And you wanna make this a controversy, while you calling for the support of russia? Serioulsy? Should we take a look into Russia's Spec Forces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    You are trying way to hard here.
    Maybe if you put that college edumacation to work and read the article you would understand his family raised him on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    He also joined in the late 50s early 60s before there were easy background checks.
    Yes, but I have a hard time believing this never came up during his career.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raubritter View Post
    And you wanna make this a controversy, while you calling for the support of russia? Serioulsy? Should we take a look into Russia's Spec Forces?
    The man murdered three people. I'm not 'making' it a controversy, it is one. This has nothing to do with Russian SOF. It has to do with the vetting process people going into that line of work go through. Honestly, I'm surprised this man A) Didn't do this earlier and B) Didn't kill more people. This could have been much worse.
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    Edit: It occurs to me I did not link the other article I wanted to post: http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/us/kan...html?hpt=hp_t1
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Yes, but I have a hard time believing this never came up during his career.
    So you are going to blame the US military, for not stopping a crazy old man from killing people, some 40+ years after he was out of the military?

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    Default Re: Ex Special Forces operator kills three outside Jewish community centre in Kansas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    So you are going to blame the US military, for not stopping a crazy old man from killing people, some 40+ years after he was out of the military?
    I'm saying that somebody in the Army royally screwed up 40 years ago. And that somebody REALLY screwed up thirty years ago when this guy was busted purchasing stolen explosives and anti-tank weapons and recruiting active duty personnel into a paramilitary organization and was let go. There seems to be a disturbing lack of accountability here. Most intelligent people would be concerned.
    Last edited by Dante Von Hespburg; April 14, 2014 at 05:27 PM. Reason: Direct remark removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Do try to keep up sweetheart, I'm saying that somebody in the Army royally screwed up 40 years ago. And that somebody REALLY screwed up thirty years ago when this guy was busted purchasing stolen explosives and anti-tank weapons and recruiting active duty personnel into a paramilitary organization and was let go. There seems to be a disturbing lack of accountability here. Most intelligent people would be concerned.
    And what would you have recommended they do? He was prosecuted, turned in his buddies, was hated by them, went underground for years, and went nuts as an old man decades later.

    I think you are just looking for ANYTHING to blame on the US military and you don't really believe anything you are posting beyond that.
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    Default Re: Ex Special Forces operator kills three outside Jewish community centre in Kansas.

    Well...this is disgusting. I hope our SF retiree has a nice retirement in a prison cell.

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    Condolences to the families of the victims.

    Patriotism taken to a deadly extreme turns into racist violence, the army is not to blame, he was recruited in a time when racism was tacitly accepted by society, society changed, this man did not, and his deadly beliefs took the lives of three innocents.
    Last edited by justicar5; April 14, 2014 at 10:43 AM.

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    Default Re: Ex Special Forces operator kills three outside Jewish community centre in Kansas.

    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    Condolences to the families of the victims.

    Patriotism taken to a deadly extreme turns into racist violence, the army is not to blame, he was recruited in a time when racism was tacitly accepted by society, society changed, this man did not, and his deadly beliefs took the lives of three innocents.
    Hardly, the man was smiling and saying "Heil Hitler" when they put him in the car.

    He was not an American patriot. He was an Aryan nationalist type.
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    Default Re: Ex Special Forces operator kills three outside Jewish community centre in Kansas.

    what kind of muslim was this guy? does he have links to Hamas?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    what kind of muslim was this guy? does he have links to Hamas?
    He's from a sect of Islam that Westerners don't make much of a fuss about. They're called Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setekh View Post
    He's from a sect of Islam that Westerners don't make much of a fuss about. They're called Christians.
    then its not terrorism then. thats a relief at least.




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    Default Re: Ex Special Forces operator kills three outside Jewish community centre in Kansas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Setekh View Post
    He's from a sect of Islam that Westerners don't make much of a fuss about. They're called Christians.
    Zing! Nice one. Although I'd argue Christianity is a sect of Judaism if it is a sect of anything, but that's beyond the point (of making a good joke).

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    He had to kill them to give them Freedom, just like in Iraq.

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    You guys are hilarious. It's like reading the good section of reddit. On a more serious note, why is some shooting or some other gun related issue brought up every week in the Mudpit?

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