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April 13, 2014, 10:22 AM
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Study on State Gifts Need Help
Gift Size
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Tapezius
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Athens
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Cimmeria
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Schythia
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Seleucid
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Armenia
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Cappodacia
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Colchis
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Galatia
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Small
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10
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0
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10
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0
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No option
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8
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0
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8
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0
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Medium
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10
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10
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10
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8
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10
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8
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10
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10
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8
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Large
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8
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15
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10
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8
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10
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8
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10
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8
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8
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I set Gifts in Campaign Variables to Small = 500, Medium = 2000, Large = 2100.
Started Game on Hard as Pontus.
Using Radious mod version 12-4-14.
I was at war with Cappodacia. I was red by turn 4 with all the above except Trapezius and Athens.
Obviously this a dangerous an untenable situation for a pile of Eastern Spearmen, so I decided to experiment.
I loaded gold with Artmoney
I gave 1000 to each faction turn 5, 2000 turn 6, and 3000 turn 7.
The additional effect of the gift to each faction is recorded above.
I should note that the gift value drops holds steady for some factions while it vanishes quickly for others at a rate of 1 per turn at first.
Can someone point to the file in the pack file that explains the effects of state gifts?
It doesn't seem there is any difference between gift amounts except for Athens.
I know that personality diplomatic events values assigns different values to state gifts, but the values are not showing up in game like that file says they should.
What other variable is affecting the actual outcome?
I also have noted in game that medium gifts to certain states have no effect mid-game. They do not even show up on the diplomatic values list.
Last edited by gdwitt; April 13, 2014 at 10:37 AM.
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April 13, 2014, 10:26 AM
#2
Re: Study on State Gifts Need Help
Gift Size
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Sparta
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Athens
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Carthage
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Syracuse
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Epirus
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Liguria
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Etruscan
No war
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Ardre..
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Small
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8
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8
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0
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8
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8
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8
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X
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8
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Medium
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8
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8
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8
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8
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8
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8
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X
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8
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Large
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45
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45
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45
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45
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45
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45
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X
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45
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As Rome Turn 1 hard.
This time Small = 1000, Medium=2000, Large=8000
With setpoint in Camp variables at 500,2000,2100
I believe I have some factual errors in the Pontus test. The 15 = 7 from previous turn plus from current turn.
The 45 was an add-on amount that I derived from subtracting the old total from the new total.
Someone needs to figure out what the baseline gift achieves. It is hard with Artmoney because one has to exit the game and wait a minute to add small amounts a little bit a time.
It appears that donating a small amount several times is about the same as giving 1 large gift. Not sure yet. The game seems to count the large gifts as a composite of smaller gifts.
Last edited by gdwitt; April 13, 2014 at 01:58 PM.
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