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    Default LegendofTotalWar does Historical Battles on Legendary

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpclb6_8-2U
    Here's the battle of Zama.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2dzEnhjePA
    Here's the battle of Cannae

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A09viZdKOgM
    Battle of Carthage

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H-Neur-I3o
    Battle of Alesia. There's pretty much no way to use battlefield exploits on this one. You have to defend both victory points and the enemy are raging towards them.


    On these battles that AI outnumber you and have insane bonuses to their stats. If you form a line and fight man vs man you will be destroyed in a matter of moments.

    Feel free to post videos of other people doing these battles on legendary difficulty differently.

    If you know other ways of winning these battles on legendary difficult please share your experience. My way is not the only way to do this I'm sure.
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    Default Re: LegendofTotalWar does Battle of Cannae on Legendary.

    Watched the full video yesterday, really great work there. I wouldn't have had the patience to go through it myself.


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    Default Re: LegendofTotalWar does Battle of Cannae on Legendary.

    Good job! you rock!

    But this is a shame that we could not win with the right historical way.
    And this is a shame to see the roman army with cavalery superiority in this battle.

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    Ah damn you! I'm currently working on this :L Beat me to it >

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    Great Battle LegendofTotalWar

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    Default Re: LegendofTotalWar does Battle of Cannae on Legendary.

    The incredible retarded AI a chimp could beat. This game is total war FAIL. Good tactics Legend.

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    The incapability of the battle field AI to do anything meaningful does not give credit to your tactical skills, I am afraid. And killing Hannibal at the very beginning of the battle...I was astonished and a bit disappointed to see that you would exploit the AI's inactiveness that way... So, I am not sure if your victory - doubtlessley well deserved - is something we should talk about so much...

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    Default Re: LegendofTotalWar does Battle of Cannae on Legendary.

    Exploiting weaknesses in AI and enemy moves is what warfare is about. If you have a problem with it then find someone who got a better results without doing it and post it here. Heir of Carthage lost both battles on Normal difficulty. What I did at the start of Zama was no different to what Hannibal did and Cannae. He chased Varro off the field straight away. Exploited his stupidity. If you have a problem with what I do, then you should have a problem with 90% of the best generals of all time, because exploitation of weakness is how they got great victories.

    It seems no matter what CA does people will call the AI stupid. Even when the AI is very hard to beat. Just youtube battle of Cannae or Zama and watch how many people lost these battles. There are only a few victories.

    It seems that a lot of you have expectations that the AI is going to be so hard that the best players, exploiting or not, can't beat them. This is a computer game. CA is going to make the AI beatable. And if it wasn't beatable, you'd still complain. When Hannibal at the Gates first came out people were seriously struggling with these battles.

    Adjust your expectations or you will never enjoy this game. You're getting angry at victories rather than celebrating them.

    The AI in these battles is adequate.
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    Default Re: LegendofTotalWar does Battle of Cannae on Legendary.

    Quote Originally Posted by totalwar_legend View Post
    Exploiting weaknesses in AI and enemy moves is what warfare is about. If you have a problem with it then find someone who got a better results without doing it and post it here. Heir of Carthage lost both battles on Normal difficulty. What I did at the start of Zama was no different to what Hannibal did and Cannae. He chased Varro off the field straight away. Exploited his stupidity. If you have a problem with what I do, then you should have a problem with 90% of the best generals of all time, because exploitation of weakness is how they got great victories.

    It seems no matter what CA does people will call the AI stupid. Even when the AI is very hard to beat. Just youtube battle of Cannae or Zama and watch how many people lost these battles. There are only a few victories.

    It seems that a lot of you have expectations that the AI is going to be so hard that the best players, exploiting or not, can't beat them. This is a computer game. CA is going to make the AI beatable. And if it wasn't beatable, you'd still complain. When Hannibal at the Gates first came out people were seriously struggling with these battles.

    Adjust your expectations or you will never enjoy this game. You're getting angry at victories rather than celebrating them.

    The AI in these battles is adequate.
    Just tried this as my first historical battle on Normal. Got a Pyhrric Victory and the achievement, which I'm proud of. Not easy by any standard, and the AI is exceedingly adequate. Historical battles have always been difficult so I'm at a loss for what the poster just said. I've been outflanked and surrounded tactically so many times on Hard and Normal difficulty in both HatG and the GC. Please keep posting these, as they give great insight to a strategic mind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by totalwar_legend View Post
    Exploiting weaknesses in AI and enemy moves is what warfare is about. If you have a problem with it then find someone who got a better results without doing it and post it here. Heir of Carthage lost both battles on Normal difficulty. What I did at the start of Zama was no different to what Hannibal did and Cannae. He chased Varro off the field straight away. Exploited his stupidity. If you have a problem with what I do, then you should have a problem with 90% of the best generals of all time, because exploitation of weakness is how they got great victories.

    It seems no matter what CA does people will call the AI stupid. Even when the AI is very hard to beat. Just youtube battle of Cannae or Zama and watch how many people lost these battles. There are only a few victories.

    It seems that a lot of you have expectations that the AI is going to be so hard that the best players, exploiting or not, can't beat them. This is a computer game. CA is going to make the AI beatable. And if it wasn't beatable, you'd still complain. When Hannibal at the Gates first came out people were seriously struggling with these battles.

    Adjust your expectations or you will never enjoy this game. You're getting angry at victories rather than celebrating them.

    The AI in these battles is adequate.
    I think everyone agrees though that the Carthaginian army not moving, despite light cav circling them completely and killing their general, is a bit silly.

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    Default Re: LegendofTotalWar does Battle of Cannae on Legendary.

    Quote Originally Posted by totalwar_legend View Post
    Exploiting weaknesses in AI and enemy moves is what warfare is about. If you have a problem with it then find someone who got a better results without doing it and post it here. Heir of Carthage lost both battles on Normal difficulty. What I did at the start of Zama was no different to what Hannibal did and Cannae. He chased Varro off the field straight away. Exploited his stupidity. If you have a problem with what I do, then you should have a problem with 90% of the best generals of all time, because exploitation of weakness is how they got great victories.

    It seems no matter what CA does people will call the AI stupid. Even when the AI is very hard to beat. - the AI is not hard to beat - its the in-balance of the troops which makes it feel this way, the AI is non existent in this battle! Just youtube battle of Cannae or Zama and watch how many people lost these battles. There are only a few victories.

    It seems that a lot of you have expectations that the AI is going to be so hard that the best players, exploiting or not, can't beat them. This is a computer game. CA is going to make the AI beatable. - That's far from reality and really CA's last concern - CA isn't able to program a adequate existing AI in all the time they had. And if it wasn't beatable, you'd still complain. When Hannibal at the Gates first came out people were seriously struggling with these battles.

    Adjust your expectations or you will never enjoy this game. You're getting angry at victories rather than celebrating them.

    The AI in these battles is adequate. Sorry but he's not existence, and to implement a script to freeze the main army and send the 2 elephants forehead was the work of a programming genius, unbelievable short sighted coding!!!!



    Hi there I watched your battle and must thank you for the work you have done with this demonstration - nice one! Congratulation to your victory as well!

    You have demonstrated how bad the AI really is, he is in no way adequate, and CA programmers should really scratch their heads to see such - after all the good talk about AI, 12 patches - and should move to work on that!

    True many gamer lost this battle just because in Legendary - the enemy troops have total unrealistic bonus on just about everything...means if two spear units fight against - of usually similar strength - the AI spear troop will just have minimal casualties and your troops are gone! That's why I see such battles on legendary just as no fun and senseless at all....

    Don't get me wrong - my statement are in no way meant against you, and I am happy you showed CA their AI with this video,.. and if you happy with the victory that's fine also, I would not!

    Have a good day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by totalwar_legend View Post
    Exploiting weaknesses in AI and enemy moves is what warfare is about. If you have a problem with it then find someone who got a better results without doing it and post it here. Heir of Carthage lost both battles on Normal difficulty. What I did at the start of Zama was no different to what Hannibal did and Cannae. He chased Varro off the field straight away. Exploited his stupidity. If you have a problem with what I do, then you should have a problem with 90% of the best generals of all time, because exploitation of weakness is how they got great victories.

    It seems no matter what CA does people will call the AI stupid. Even when the AI is very hard to beat. Just youtube battle of Cannae or Zama and watch how many people lost these battles. There are only a few victories.
    Nothing special or genius about taking advantage of the flaws and glitches in a game.
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    Just saw the battle at Zama. The AI is incredibly stupid. Period.

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    Your victories are both very well done.The AI however is so terribly awful ,i don't think any number of patches would be able to fix it.


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    This battle was on legendary? Battle AI needs a serious tweak it seems!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by totalwar_legend View Post
    ... but you can't deny the results are good.
    Sorry but that is exactly what I will do, and anyone who likes playing a game worth playing should too!

    That was a pathetic display of an an AI in action, you basically exploited your way through the battle (with great skill) up to the point where you killed Hannibal from behind with the numidians, and the AI didn't even acknowledge it was happening. I had turned to see something on TV and thought I misheard and had to rewind... I couldn't' believe my eyes.

    Is this the game we waited 10 years for? Is this really what makes for a great gameplay experience... an enemy general of immense historical talent sitting with his back to salvos of javelins until he dies, without even a cry out?

    I didn't watch past that. There's no need and certainly no enjoyment in such a game.

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    You're never happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dago Red View Post
    Sorry but that is exactly what I will do, and anyone who likes playing a game worth playing should too!

    That was a pathetic display of an an AI in action, you basically exploited your way through the battle (with great skill) up to the point where you killed Hannibal from behind with the numidians, and the AI didn't even acknowledge it was happening. I had turned to see something on TV and thought I misheard and had to rewind... I couldn't' believe my eyes.

    Is this the game we waited 10 years for? Is this really what makes for a great gameplay experience... an enemy general of immense historical talent sitting with his back to salvos of javelins until he dies, without even a cry out?

    I didn't watch past that. There's no need and certainly no enjoyment in such a game.

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    Why is every video uploaded on here have the giant glowing 50ft tall unit flags?

    I took the training wheels and student driver sign off years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolves In The Throne Room View Post
    Why is every video uploaded on here have the giant glowing 50ft tall unit flags?

    I took the training wheels and student driver sign off years ago.
    Good for you. *pats him patronisingly on the back*.
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