Moving Hyrule total war to the best total war game in the series: Rome II: Total war. (April Fools)

[Jakeford]

Hyrule total war has had to face the hard coded limits of Medieval II: Total war for to long. With absurd limits such as "only 30 factions and 500 units" Undyingnephalim can't add everything he wants to. He has tried to make many innovative features in the campaign and battles but they are buggy and don't work as well as they could. On top of that Medieval II total war is about 8 years old now. With new and better computers coming out it is only a matter of time (actually it will be many, many years) before Medieval II is no longer playable. Medieval II is a sinking ship.

There is only one solution. Move Hyrule total war to Rome II.

Rome II is by far the best game in the franchise, it has so many deep, well implemented features, excellent AI, beautiful graphics, balanced and unique factions, and completely epic battles! It has such an awesome combat system! The way that units stay together and fight in such a realistic way... The best deal? Creative assembly said they want to support modding on it. There was absolutely no bugs at launch! Don't even get me started on how awesome its DLC is. There is a reason why Rome II got all of its near perfect and 10/10's from the gamming websites!

Moving Hyrule total war to Rome II: total war will mean that the graphics and models can be greatly improved, and it can benefit from a more modern and longer lasting engine, it will surely benefit from all those awesome new features!

Moving Hyrule total war to the Rome II engine will improve and benefit it in almost everyway!

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April Fools. Almost everything I said about Rome II is the opposite of the truth.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...ral-Discussion
Official Complaint Thread: 153 pages.
Official Praise Thread 15 pages.

[The Holy Pilgrim]

Woah, woah, woah!

I know April Fool's Day is a time of pranks and mischievous trickery, but cruel and malicious acts will NOT be tolerated!

Children browse these forums, for Pete's sake! How dare you expose such filth to innocent eyes.

[Sir Aroun]

Woah, woah, woah!

I know April Fool's Day is a time of pranks and mischievous trickery, but cruel and malicious acts will NOT be tolerated!

Children browse these forums, for Pete's sake! How dare you expose such filth to innocent eyes.

Ok, Rome 2 is not that bad. Is it?

[Earl Dibbles Jr]

Ok, Rome 2 is not that bad. Is it?

The medieval 2 engine beats the warscape engine by a long shot.

[Jakeford]

Pilgram the children have to grow up one way or another. It is better for them to be exposed to this then by eaten up by a den of poorly designed games!


As for Sir Aroun- It certainly was at launch, it is a lot less buggy now but they can't fix bad game design, dumbed down gameplay, and bland unit rosters! I think what made it a lot worst then it would have been is the dirty marketing practice done by CA, all of their lies, and their broken promises. n:

[Emperor Hantscher]

I saw the thread title and thought "Okay another noob to the forums that has no idea what he is talking about" then I saw it was started by you, whom I remember seeing very intelligent and constructive posts from. Good think I kept reading or I would have lost all hope for mankind.

[Jakeford]

I saw the thread title and thought "Okay another noob to the forums that has no idea what he is talking about" then I saw it was started by you, whom I remember seeing very intelligent and constructive posts from. Good think I kept reading or I would have lost all hope for mankind.

That comment made my day, I am glad that I come off as intelligent and constructive, despite rather stupid things I say once in a while. (such as when Undyingnephalim gave me a massive nerdgasim the day he announced the expansion packs for HTW)

On another note I am glad that the regulars on this thread are intellectual people who understand why Rome II is horrible.

Edit:

Congrats, I actually fell for this until I got to the second paragraph.

It is kind of sad that, even with the hardcoded limits, Medieval 2 has more features in it then every Total War game released after it. Unless you count buggy naval combat.

Yes it is certainly sad. Creative assembly and many other studios and companies are removing what made their franchises great, which is shooting themselves in the foot and alienating their original fanbase. Another good example would be you guessed it: Zelda. (hand holding, linearity, lack of serous atmosphere, restricting overworlds, easy gameplay. All worlds apart from the original)

[Cameron Shutters]

linearity, restricting overworlds, easy gameplay. All worlds apart from the original)

Woah woah woah now hold on just a gotdang moment here. I can't speak for all of this because I haven't played any Zelda since Windwaker but if anything Zelda has increased freedom in the overworld over the years. Windwaker had way more to explore than Ocarina of Time for example. In the newest one you could do the dungeons in any order. Hell the creator said that he's been recently inspired by Skyrim and wants to slowly change Zelda into a more open world stlye of game. Now I could be wrong; I mean like I said I haven't played since Windwaker, but everything I know about the newer Zelda games says otherwise. Let's not forget that Zelda has always been pretty linear anyway with the exception of the first two games; I mean it's just "go to this dungeon beat the boss unlock this new area go to this dungeon..." and as for difficulty Zelda has always been laughably easy since Ocarina of Time. It's just not a hard game series and I find it hard to believe that it could have gotten even easier in recent years.

[UndyingNephalim]

In the newest one you could do the dungeons in any order.

You could do that in the very first Zelda game. I'm still shocked people seemed to have forgotten that and pass it off as a completely never before done feature to the series with the release of ALBW.

Zelda has increased freedom in the overworld over the years.

Nope, they have gotten even more linear ever since Twilight Princess. Pun intended, but Spirit Track's overworld was literally on guided rails. Skyward Sword's overworld is technically pretty open, but it's a barren sky with tiny rocks spread out across it. I'm not trying to say open world is better then a linear game, either method works if it's done well, but the fact of the matter is there is an extremely noticeable attempt with each new Zelda game to make it feel like the player is a total idiot that needs to be guided against their will from dungeon to dungeon. ALBW's overworld is the only exception, but that game treats you like a drooling child in other ways.

I find it hard to believe that it could have gotten even easier in recent years

It has. Seriously. I thought I was just getting better at the games, but even for my youngest sister she can blaze through more recent Zelda games in no time to the point of boredom and is still stuck in the Fire Temple of OoT.

[Duke Serkol]

You could do that in the very first Zelda game.

Make that the first three (granted, not the Light World dungeons of ALttP and you'd need to grind like crazy in AoL).

[Cameron Shutters]

You could do that in the very first Zelda game. I'm still shocked people seemed to have forgotten that and pass it off as a completely never before done feature to the series with the release of ALBW.

Hence why I said

Let's not forget that Zelda has always been pretty linear anyway with the exception of the first two games

[Avatar of the Ice Wolf]

For the most part, my reply mirrors that of the good emperor above me.

[UndyingNephalim]

Congrats, I actually fell for this until I got to the second paragraph.


It is kind of sad that, even with the hardcoded limits, Medieval 2 has more features in it then every Total War game released after it. Unless you count buggy naval combat.

[nintendo64isking]

never could get into rome 2 for some reason, probably wont be getting another new total war, unless its something radically different like some thing which involves aircraft, navy and armies in world war one and world war 2

[starwars90001]

it's to believe the total war series got worst the more they went on,with the zelda series it's different, the zelda games problem is formula, ether games break the formula: majora's mask, wind wider, ss. follow formula: ALBW, oracles, link's awaking. or follow formula too much: twilight princess. that's one reason why ever zelda has a fan base and not everyone likes a link to the past.

total war's problem is they never fix the problems from the beginning, they keep taking things out, and they add more problems to the game.

[tedster1995]

I just wished someone had warned me about this before i bought Empire tw that was possibly the worst purchase i have ever made.

[VictorAYorke]

If it's of any help, I've never actually managed to get more than 3 turns into any TW game since they rolled out the Warscape engine (with Empire) without a CTD. M2TW is therefore as advanced as I'm likely to see for the forseeable, and subsequently it's amazing what shapes Neph has contorted it into.

In zelda terms, the most recent one I've played has been TP, so I can't really contribute in that regard.

[mcloud]

Most zelda games have indeed become easier to beat, the only one that I could say was challenging may have been skyward sword; however, I think this may have been because I hadn't played the wii in awhile. The hardest zelda games I have played were the first two, and I honestly still haven't beaten either one yet. If you would like zelda games to actually be challenging I suggest playing the games with 3 or 6 hearts only and limit what healing items you get (ie no more than one fairy and one of each potion if possible) and play on hero mode (if possible) or the master quest version of Oot. It makes it more challenging battle wise since you have to be careful, especially when facing multiple enemies that won't die in one hit.

[Jakeford]

I am no veteran to Zelda and I find Majora's mask and A Link To the Past to be quite challenging. I am plaything those through for the first time. Twilight Princess was hard the first time but lacked in challenge on my second play through. OOT was hard the first time. The second time it was much easier but still had some challenge.

As for Total war, I believed that Total war got better with every game and reached its peak with Medieval 2 total war. But then they completely ed up with Empire, whom failed for the same reasons as Rome II, just not as bad. Napoleon was much better but ever sense total war games have never been as good. Reaching the all time low with Rome II. Warscape needs to go! Warscape is horrible! Seriously have you seen the lack of unit collision? It absolutely kills combat in the second half of the series.

[Saria's Vanguard]

As far as Warscape goes Shogun 2 and FOTS were pretty fun, but I do feel that the engine from Rome and Medieval 2 is superior and needs to come back. Rome 2 was definitely my biggest video game letdown besides Skyward Sword. I haven't touched Rome 2 since the month it came out. (Also Empire with Darthmod makes it alright)