"start battle" CTD?

[PonySlaystation]

hey,

i encountered a problem in my carthage campaign (~turn 130) about a week ago and posting here is my last attempt to save this campaign before i have to start over. i just dont know what else i could do to fix this:

whenever i fight against the seleucids (at least the first CTD happened there) i get a CTD when i click on the "start battle" button. after some testing i realized that it was linked to clicking on my units before i hit the button. so whenever i click on one of my units (+drag/move/group them) i get a "rome2 isnt working anymore" CTD when i just click on the "start battle" button without doing anything the battle starts normally and i can finish it. i played with this workaround some days but in some battles (especially defensive and siege battles) i really need to rearrange my army before hitting the button so at least in this battles its kinda gamebraking for me.

i already tried reinstalling rome2 and my mods, deactivating all submods (before i encountered this problem i used less squalor mod, agents rebalanced, aztec and BoW units enabled) and even reinstalling windows7 (so the AppData/Roaming/The Creative Assembly/Rome2-folder was deleted completely, i just copied my savegames back into it) and worked through the FAQ provided in the official Rome2 forums but nothing helps.

has anyone encountered something like this before or can someone give me any advice/help? i would really appreciate it since i already spent many hours into this campaign it confuses me that it first happens with the seleucids and only on my carthage campaign...in custom battles/other campaigns everything seems to be fine (so far...in other campaigns i didnt fight against the seleucids actually).

a savegame right before a battle where this CTD occurs: http://www.workupload.com/file/vVu9trPh (click on "herunterladen"=download...its german sry^^)

edit: i already played some MPCs and other campaigns and i didnt encountered it there btw. i also tried some other battles against the seleucids and i didnt get a CTD there after rearranging my units. maybe it happens when the enemy army includes a garrison force (reinforcement or main army). it just confuses me that it often happens when i play against a garrison and when i rearrange my units before the battle... for example when i fight an open-field-battle with the same army i used in this savegame it works perfectly fine.

oh and i got this CTD before the season and wonders patch as well. so its not related to the new DLC or patch.

[icerunner5326]

I'm seeing this as well. My current example is somewhat similar PonySlayStation's: offensive battle vs seclucid with them having reinforcements which include a garrison.

Only using DeI.

[icerunner5326]

It's working now. I duno

[icerunner5326]

I noticed one difference between when it crashed and when it worked: when it crashed there was a fleet of enemy transports reinforcing. When it worked, they were not present. That's the only difference I noticed.

[Selea]

hey,

i encountered a problem in my carthage campaign (~turn 130) about a week ago and posting here is my last attempt to save this campaign before i have to start over. i just dont know what else i could do to fix this:

whenever i fight against the seleucids (at least the first CTD happened there) i get a CTD when i click on the "start battle" button. after some testing i realized that it was linked to clicking on my units before i hit the button. so whenever i click on one of my units (+drag/move/group them) i get a "rome2 isnt working anymore" CTD when i just click on the "start battle" button without doing anything the battle starts normally and i can finish it. i played with this workaround some days but in some battles (especially defensive and siege battles) i really need to rearrange my army before hitting the button so at least in this battles its kinda gamebraking for me.

i already tried reinstalling rome2 and my mods, deactivating all submods (before i encountered this problem i used less squalor mod, agents rebalanced, aztec and BoW units enabled) and even reinstalling windows7 (so the AppData/Roaming/The Creative Assembly/Rome2-folder was deleted completely, i just copied my savegames back into it) and worked through the FAQ provided in the official Rome2 forums but nothing helps.

has anyone encountered something like this before or can someone give me any advice/help? i would really appreciate it since i already spent many hours into this campaign it confuses me that it first happens with the seleucids and only on my carthage campaign...in custom battles/other campaigns everything seems to be fine (so far...in other campaigns i didnt fight against the seleucids actually).

a savegame right before a battle where this CTD occurs: http://www.workupload.com/file/vVu9trPh (click on "herunterladen"=download...its german sry^^)

edit: i already played some MPCs and other campaigns and i didnt encountered it there btw. i also tried some other battles against the seleucids and i didnt get a CTD there after rearranging my units. maybe it happens when the enemy army includes a garrison force (reinforcement or main army). it just confuses me that it often happens when i play against a garrison and when i rearrange my units before the battle... for example when i fight an open-field-battle with the same army i used in this savegame it works perfectly fine.

oh and i got this CTD before the season and wonders patch as well. so its not related to the new DLC or patch.

I will check that save to see if it happens also to me. If it does I will try to understand if it's DEI related or not.

I will let you know.

EDIT:

Strange, for me it doesn't crash. I checked two times, both changing setup of the army a lot before starting the battle. The second time I also played the battle for some time without problems.

Now I don't know if it is because I checked it with the last version (0.85 beta) of DeI or not, but for me it doesn't crash.

The thing you can hope is that it was a problem in 0.82h that is now resolved.

[PonySlaystation]

EDIT:
Strange, for me it doesn't crash. I checked two times, both changing setup of the army a lot before starting the battle. The second time I also played the battle for some time without problems.

Now I don't know if it is because I checked it with the last version (0.85 beta) of DeI or not, but for me it doesn't crash.

The thing you can hope is that it was a problem in 0.82h that is now resolved.

hm strange. its really weird. ill try it again when 0.85 is out and thank you for checking this although you are busy with 0.85 etc!

[PonySlaystation]

thanks selea for looking into this

i just had a battle where even moving my camera caused a CTD when clicking on the "start battle" button. so maybe its related to this. again not moving the camera at all or doing anything except clicking on "start battle" seems to work. but i also had battles with seleucid garrisons involved where i could rearrange my units. i just dont know...maybe its map-related (so far i got this CTD only near jerusalem or tyros). i had a fresh windows7 + rome2 installment with only DeI active so either my savegame is corrupt or its probably related to DeI.

[PonySlaystation]

icerunner were you using any other submods btw?

i got the crash in battles where transports were reinforcing but also in land-battles without any reinforcements (but in both were seleucid garrisons involved).

[icerunner5326]

No sub-mods just dei

[Dresden]

This "Start Battle" crash has been recurring now and then for some users since 0.75. It is very odd because I can't replicate it either.

For those users, if they start the battle immediately it is usually fine, it is only after the camera settles and they set their armies up that it crashes. I honestly have no idea why it is happening, although it seems limited to the Seleucids now.

I wonder if it is because they are currently missing their formations (I changed their subculture but forgot to add in formations for them). I will be fixing the formation problem in .85 and I wonder if it will affect this issue.

[Sir_Pee_Alot]

If i have that many problems then i would just start a new campaign.

[william456]

try your game save with 0.82h-v4 and still fact ctd too

[MagicCuboid]

Sorry to necro an old thread, but I'd like to add that I am still getting the Seleucid "Start Battle" crash.

This has happened to me on my Rome camapign 213 turns in, as well as my Ptolemy campaign about 30 turns in. I can verify that all the symptoms remain the same:

It seems limited to garrisons, whether they're reinforcing or sallying out. I'm pretty sure battles fought within the towns are just fine. Hitting "start battle" right away is still a work around. That is a lifesaver for me, since the DeI starting formation for Rome is very close to what I go with anyway.

Here are a list of mods I'm running:

DeI 0.9h (standalone twcenter version)
DeI Historical Legions
More Towns and Cities on the campaign map mod
Historical Development submod
Minor City Training Fields submod
DeI Unit Spacing submod
Meerkat's Legion Rebalancing
Edicts Submod
My own pack file that gives navies double movement points
Various Bullgod UI card replacers

Just letting you know!