Real Shields Project v0.33 (For use with Western Unit Overhaul)

**Teutonic** · May 05, 2014, 08:05 PM

I am guessing not, never seen anything to do with English spearmen with pavises. English infantry was overwhelmingly made of archers, boosted by men-at-arms on foot. Also, English infantry was known for the use of the bill (as you can see from MTW2 itself

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**nikossaiz** · May 06, 2014, 12:12 AM

I know, this is also my guessing, but i want to be sure. Vanilla total war took almost all the units form the ospreys' men at arms book series ( thank god for that

so they have a gredit. But France clearly used spearmen with pavises on the field and during siegies on the 100 years war, and i allready made one such unit for them, but i dont know, english didnt follow on this? i mean, French borrow the longbow eventually

**Teutonic** · May 06, 2014, 08:50 AM

I am guessing that if the English used pavises (not spearmen specifically) it would've been when besieging cities/castles. The Hundred Years War was mainly sieges, especially in the 15th century.
If you've done the work already you can still introduce them but with some modification. Maybe reduce the soldiers in the unit and increase the shield value in EDU.

Someone with better knowledge than me may give better advice, I'm sure. But looking at battle orders for the English, outside archers and men-at-arms, other infantry would've been basic levy or used two-handed weapons like bills. Also, pavises were used in the high/late middle ages, right? At this stage English infantry was very narrow in composition- mostly arches and some tough men-at-arms (including dismounted knights).

**stoogeofstooges** · May 14, 2014, 06:39 PM

Do you have a picture of the pavise spearmen you've been working on?

**Hellvard** · August 04, 2014, 04:25 PM

Niko, are you working on next version of your submod?

**nikossaiz** · August 26, 2014, 12:42 PM

Hellvard summer is the time of the year that i have the most real life work load and that is why i stall the second release. But i will upload it as soon as im finish with it! and are many new heraldry introduced!

**Marku** · September 05, 2014, 08:56 AM

I will keep an eye on this mod, looking good!!

Efharisto poli ;-)

**Garensterz** · October 24, 2014, 04:27 PM

Where were the instructions? What I've done is, importing the attachement files in the unit_models/attachment folder and overwriting the battle models.db. But whenever I launch a battle, it CTD's.

**G|I|Sandy** · October 25, 2014, 09:14 AM

I believe this is compatible with v2.3.

Sandy

**crosscheck86** · January 12, 2015, 11:10 AM

Would an update for Version 3.0 be possible?

**tommy_ros** · May 24, 2015, 05:59 AM

@Garensterz: If I overwrite the battle models.db. with the one in the mod, it gives me a ctd right on starting the game. So i used the old battle models.db. and it seems to work for me and the new shields are actually there. Anyone has an idea for that install instructions mentioned at first post? I can´t find them in downloaded folder.