? about new update with legions.

[est Dudus]

First, typing on my phone so I will do my best to make it legible.

My ? is with this option 3, do we now just get generic legionaries and vets (i really hate ver legions) or do I get differnt visual legion units say when i recruit in áfrica? Does the recruitment map still apply(just without names), or is it just same old same legion unit everywhere. Thanks.

[Selea]

First, typing on my phone so I will do my best to make it legible.

My ? is with this option 3, do we now just get generic legionaries and vets (i really hate ver legions) or do I get differnt visual legion units say when i recruit in áfrica? Does the recruitment map still apply(just without names), or is it just same old same legion unit everywhere. Thanks.

No, it is just the same name but Legions are all visually different as before.

[est Dudus]

Ok. So do I still need to recruit a legion in a specific region to get the visual difference? Sorry haven't got that far only 60 turns in and loving it.

[Dresden]

Ok. So do I still need to recruit a legion in a specific region to get the visual difference? Sorry haven't got that far only 60 turns in and loving it.

Yes

[est Dudus]

Thanks guys. I have to say, this is the most fun I have had with this game( actually, the most fun since MW2 and stainless still). I really didn't think it was going to pan out..not with you guys, but with CA. Now I am really looking forward going back home and loading up my save and fighting a very brutal war with Suebi which are massive. Thanks for all the hard work.

[Ralkorin]

Are all the Evocata, called Evocata germanica, as I can recruit them everywhere, really like the recruitment options and what you guys did was just curious about the Evocata, and I think the script bug is back as well as I went to recruit a unit of Evocata then changed my mind, and then the unit was not recruitable again.

[UsulDaNeriak]

Are all the Evocata, called Evocata germanica, as I can recruit them everywhere, really like the recruitment options and what you guys did was just curious about the Evocata, and I think the script bug is back as well as I went to recruit a unit of Evocata then changed my mind, and then the unit was not recruitable again.

Sounds like a bug to me.

Evocati should be not legion or region specific and should have a generic naming. These were soldiers, which signed another contract after their 20/16 years of service. Often with the promise to get promoted to senior NCO (beneficarius, cornicularius) or even officer (centurio/decurio). They often were deployed all over the world before they could have been promoted, e.g. a lot of praetorian evocati became centurions of the legions. We know of a vexillatio evocatorum, IIRC Cicero mentioned it. Most probably a pool of soldiers not belonging to the 10 cohorts of a legion. Similar to the veterani but not the same, because a veteranus has not signed a new contract. At least not in imperial times.

[Ralkorin]

Ok gave myself money again and tested it as of now if you cancel recruitment on the legionares any of them with stack cap, queue the cap then cancel queue the units are no longer recruitable, was from old save game will try new game soon, and see if the same issue happens

[Selea]

Ok gave myself money again and tested it as of now if you cancel recruitment on the legionares any of them with stack cap, queue the cap then cancel queue the units are no longer recruitable, was from old save game will try new game soon, and see if the same issue happens

They will be next turn (it is written in the advice).

[Ralkorin]

Oh and thanks guys again for great mod, I will keep doing what I can to find the bugs for you all.

[Lord Damian]

Hi.
Guys, why i cant recruit Evocata Germanica and Veterani legionari? It says "Prologue only".

[Selea]

Hi.
Guys, why i cant recruit Evocata Germanica and Veterani legionari? It says "Prologue only".

Are you using the sub-mod made by Dresden?

[Lord Damian]

Are you using the sub-mod made by Dresden?

No, im not. Im just using default DeI feature becouse i really dont wanna have 2 V Alaudae legions
But yeah, i cant recruit those units (Evocata germanica, veterani legionari). it seems they are only recruitable with barrack lvl 1.

PD: Sometimes the units cards disapear and i cant recruit any legionarii at all. I have to wait like 1 or 2 turns and they come back. I dont know if you know this issue.
PD2: I will check with the today update.

[Vardano]

PD: Sometimes the units cards disapear and i cant recruit any legionarii at all. I have to wait like 1 or 2 turns and they come back. I dont know if you know this issue.

Unless you playing legendary level, make a quick save/load and cards will be back for you, but it is an issue why they disappear.

[Selea]

PD: Sometimes the units cards disapear and i cant recruit any legionarii at all. I have to wait like 1 or 2 turns and they come back. I dont know if you know this issue.

No, I don't know about it, but I don't really understand what you mean in full.

Can you be a little more specific? When it happens? It is random or there's a way to make it happen all the time?

P.S: If you buy a Legionary and you reach the cap of them and then you change your mind and cancel the buy then you will have to wait next turn for being able to buy Legionaries again. This is not a bug in itself, it is a limitation of the scripting but IMO it is a good limitation, because it makes sense that also if you cancel you still bought that unit and you should wait next turn before the cancel really happens.

[Vardano]

Are you using the sub-mod made by Dresden?

Can you explain please, I don't understand, what is this about that I can't recruit Evocata Germanica and Veterani legionari? It says "Prologue only" I only use latest version of DEI.

[Selea]

Can you explain please, I don't understand, what is this about that I can't recruit Evocata Germanica and Veterani legionari? It says "Prologue only" I only use latest version of DEI.

In fact it is strange you can't. I asked you if you used the Dresden sub-mod because maybe he used a different library for the script in that mod (I don't know sincerely) and that could cause the issue.

Provide me your save game, I will look into it.

P.S: Btw Veteran Legionaries and Evocata Germanica are in two different reforms, so it's impossible you can have them together. There's something really strange going on in your save, I tell you.

[Vardano]

In fact it is strange you can't. I asked you if you used the Dresden sub-mod because maybe he used a different library for the script in that mod (I don't know sincerely) and that could cause the issue.

Provide me your save game, I will look into it.

P.S: Btw Veteran Legionaries and Evocata Germanica are in two different reforms, so it's impossible you can have them together. There's something really strange going on in your save, I tell you.

I would never waste anyone's time if I knew why is it so. Well, as I see I'm not the only person who got this problem, only in this thread other person asked same question. I'd appreciate if you will look into my save file https://www.mediafire.com/?kkbx2jv2a2byrg4

[Vardano]

In fact it is strange you can't. I asked you if you used the Dresden sub-mod because maybe he used a different library for the script in that mod (I don't know sincerely) and that could cause the issue.

It is not me who you asked this question above but I don't use any sub-mods, only DEI and graphic ones.

[UsulDaNeriak]

P.S: Btw Veteran Legionaries and Evocata Germanica are in two different reforms, so it's impossible you can have them together.

Really? You know, that both existed in late republic and early empire simultaneuosly? I guess I know, why you don't want both, and thats ok imho. The discussions about the small differences between both or if there are any at all, are still ongoing amongst historians anyways.

But honestly, Evocata Germanica is strange latin grammar. I would call them simply Evocati or Cohors Evocatorum. Actually I bet it was a numerus and not cohors, because this unit is an irregular pool like the Numerus Primipilorum in Rome and often belong to the proconsul and his exercitus and not to a specific legion of this exercitus, but afaik we don't know exactly.