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    Default Flight MH370: plane could be used as cruise missile says McCaul

    Flight MH370 has not been found yet. The latest news include searches at the houses of of the pilot and the co-pilot, the revelation that communication systems have been intentionally disabled and speculation that the plane is out there somewhere at the hands of terrorists.


    The whole story becomes increasingly bizarre. "Storing" a plane for a later attack seems beyond the realm of probable but we have been surprised before.

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    IMO one of the most shocking aspects of the whole tragedy is how the responsible officials seem unable or unwilling to publish important information in anything close to a timely manner.

    Also, what seems a bit contradictory is how 1) the whole event was apparently orchestrated and executed with quite some precision and professionalism, yet 2) the most likely (?) scenario seems to be that the plane crashed somewhere in the Indian Ocean. If someone went to such great lengths to ensure that the plane would disappear from the map, why let it crash easily? But if the plane did land somewhere, how did it get past the Indian or Pakistani air control systems without anyone noticing? And if the perpetrators just wanted to commit suicide or kill the passengers to begin with, they might just have done that without going through the whole trouble of disabling the plane's surveillance systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astaroth View Post
    IMO one of the most shocking aspects of the whole tragedy is how the responsible officials seem unable or unwilling to publish important information in anything close to a timely manner.

    Also, what seems a bit contradictory is how 1) the whole event was apparently orchestrated and executed with quite some precision and professionalism, yet 2) the most likely (?) scenario seems to be that the plane crashed somewhere in the Indian Ocean. If someone went to such great lengths to ensure that the plane would disappear from the map, why let it crash easily? But if the plane did land somewhere, how did it get past the Indian or Pakistani air control systems without anyone noticing? If the perpetrators just wanted to commit suicide or kill the passengers, they might just have done that without going through the whole trouble of disabling the plane's surveillance systems.
    I think the Malaysian government is afraid of what they may find and they try to control information at a disastrous effect. They are embarrassed by letting two passengers with fake passports board the same plane and under pressure from China. I neither sympathize with them nor envy their task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astaroth View Post
    IMO one of the most shocking aspects of the whole tragedy is how the responsible officials seem unable or unwilling to publish important information in anything close to a timely manner.
    I think the fact that we rely on 1950's technology to track planes is the most shocking aspect. It would cost the industry many billions to upgrade to GPS (so it wont happen), but it would largely prevent things like this.

    Just another thing on the list of antiquated, or non-existing technology that puts lives at risk, and wont be upgraded until we are absolutely forced to. Hope we don't get hit by an asteroid or solar flare any time soon.
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    Default Re: Flight MH370: plane could be used as cruise missile says McCaul

    Unless a huge bribe was involved, those pilots bios don't seem to lead to anything "terrorist" like.
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    Default Re: Flight MH370: plane could be used as cruise missile says McCaul

    You know, there is an increasing number of terrorists that act independently, and there are quite a lot of existed reasons why some dude from Malaysia would become a terrorist, especially considering Malaysia is a racial-bias state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    You know, there is an increasing number of terrorists that act independently, and there are quite a lot of existed reasons why some dude from Malaysia would become a terrorist, especially considering Malaysia is a racial-bias state.
    Are you suggesting it's hijacked by the very first Han Chinese terrorist group whose existence hasn't been revealed until now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AqD View Post
    Are you suggesting it's hijacked by the very first Han Chinese terrorist group whose existence hasn't been revealed until now?
    Are you suggesting there was no Han Chinese terrorist group in Malaya before?

    Then Chinese in East Asia ask why SEA does not trust Chinese migrants.
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    Somewhere there is a Chinese man stuck in his girlfriends apartment because he told his wife he was going to be on that flight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Are you suggesting there was no Han Chinese terrorist group in Malaya before?

    Then Chinese in East Asia ask why SEA does not trust Chinese migrants.
    I never heard of that. How could it be completely unheard of by the world during its 59 years of existence? Is it even real? Its member ethnicity is also weird, considering the Han people are among the richest in South Asia. Why would they advocate redistributing their own wealth into the hands of native Malaysians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AqD View Post
    How could it be completely unheard of by the world during its 59 years of existence?
    You mean East Asians never heard about it, and it is well-known East Asians are generally acting as ignorants towards other regions of world anyway so it is not surprise.

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    Its member ethnicity is also weird
    Indeed it was a strange thing when Chinese only accounted 30% in Malaya yet about 70%~90% of Communists in Malaya were Chinese.

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    Why would they advocate redistributing their own wealth into the hands of native Malaysians?
    Mainly because the political power was/is concentrated on Malay's hands, under British design during 19th Century.
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    Yeah, the pilot was an obsessive supporter of a gay politician. He has "jihadi" written all over him.
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    Default Re: Flight MH370: plane could be used as cruise missile says McCaul

    I strongly doubt that the plan would be to land the plane safely and keep it for being used in a later terrorist attack. Keeping the aircraft won't make it deadlier (the jet fuel and impact will cause more damage than added explosives) and the best way to reach your target with a civilian airacraft is to strike so suddenly that air traffic control is unable to find the authority necessary to shoot it down.

    So I am fairly confident that the aircraft either have crashed (may have happened during failed hijacking), and if it didn't crash, then it is most likely being held for ransom rather than terror attacks.

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    Yeah, the pilot was an obsessive supporter of a gay politician. He has "jihadi" written all over him.
    Maybe he is one of those gay radical preachers we keep hearing about in the mudpit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adar View Post
    Maybe he is one of those gay radical preachers we keep hearing about in the mudpit?
    Na, he is probably a liberal.
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    Holy assumptions, Batman. So Malaysia is racist, therefore racist Malaysian pilots crashed plane full of other Asian breeds? K then.
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    Default Re: Flight MH370: plane could be used as cruise missile says McCaul

    It is a weird incident to say the least, if one or both of the pilots planned this , and a lot of information seem to suggest there's someone who knew what he was doing with the plane doing weird things, then why hasn't it either landed or crash into some sort of obvious place. as other noted, it seems silly to go through all the trouble only to crash it in the middle of the ocean. And really, if it's some sort of terrorist incident, someone should have jumped out to claim responsibility already. kidnapping 200+ ppl on top of a whole plane would make them heroes in their circles.
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    2. At this point it's a farce not in the sense that planes can't vanish despite global satellite coverage more in the Malaysian government's handling of it.

    3. Most Malays tend to be fairly easy going, despite the occasional fanatic fundamentalist and/or amoker and being a pilot in the flagship airline is a bit of a sinecure which is the reason suicide (elaborate or otherwise), pilot hijack or making some religious political statement seemed unlikely.

    4. The Malaysian government is unlucky that it was an international flight rather than domestic with not only an international set of travellers but rather overwhelmingly Chinese. The Western press isn't as shy as the local ones in not only asking but demanding answers, and the PRC both the politburo and it's electorate tend to be unforgiving.

    5. On the unlikely chance the plane was landed somewhere it could only be in some remote high security military airfield.

    6. Or Area 51. After hitting the backwash of a UFO. And transitioning through the Bermuda Triangle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    2. At this point it's a farce not in the sense that planes can't vanish despite global satellite coverage more in the Malaysian government's handling of it.
    Biggest point. Asking so many countries to help them but at the same time hiding crucial information and deliberately giving misleading information.......

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    Malaysia Airlines Expands Investigation To Include General Scope Of Space, Time

    ‘Why Are We Even Here?’ Officials Probe

    NEWSNewsISSUE 50•10 • Mar 13, 2014
    Assuming the actuality of wavefunction collapse, Malaysia Airlines officials say flight MH370 could currently be located in any possible alternate future.


    KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA—Following a host of conflicting reports in the wake of the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 last Saturday, representatives from the Kuala Lumpur–based carrier acknowledged they had widened their investigation into the vanished Boeing 777 aircraft today to encompass not only the possibilities of mechanical failure, pilot error, terrorist activity, or a botched hijacking, but also the overarching scope of space, time, and humankind’s place in the universe.
    The airline, now in its fifth day of searching for the passenger jet carrying 239 passengers and crew, has come under fire for its perceived mishandling of the investigation, whose confusing and contradictory reports have failed to provide definitive answers on everything from how long the missing plane remained aloft after losing contact with air traffic controllers, to whether the flight made a radical alteration in its heading, to the very dimensions of space-time and the nature of reality, and what exactly it is that brought us into existence and imbued us with this thing we call life.
    Additionally, the airline confirmed it had expanded its active search area to include a several-hundred-square-mile zone in the Indian Ocean as well as each of the seven or 22 additional spatial dimensions posited by string theory.
    “We continue to do everything in our power and explore every possible lead—both Cartesian and phenomenological—to locate the aircraft as quickly as possible,” said Malaysia’s civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who went on to say that authorities were still actively seeking tips from anyone claiming knowledge related either to the flight, or to the mechanisms by which consciousness arises, or to the question of why anything physical and finite exists instead of nothing at all. “At this stage, we can’t rule anything out: not crew interference with the transponders, not a catastrophic electrical failure, not the emergence of a complex topological feature of space-time such as an Einstein-Rosen bridge that could have deposited the flight at any location in the universe or a different time period altogether, nothing.”
    “Could a parallel universe have immediately swelled up from random cosmological fluctuation according to the multiverse theory and swallowed the flight into its folds, or could ice have built up on an airspeed sensor? Those are both options we are currently considering,” Rahman added. “Everything’s on the table. That is, insofar as anything exists at all, which we’re also looking into.”
    Rahman assured the press and families of passengers that officials would not rest until they locate the plane, provided that sensory experience can be verified beyond the existence of one’s own mind. Malaysian authorities also cautioned that they were dealing with an unprecedented aviation mystery and that it could take months to ascertain the airliner’s exact fate as well as, for that matter, the fate of mankind itself, assuming a linear theory of space-time in which the future is unknowable and objects travel in a forward trajectory which, authorities hasten to add, is not necessarily the case.
    In addition, airline sources attempted to assuage an uneasy public by noting they had brought in top crash investigators from the Malaysian, Vietnamese, and Chinese governments, as well as U.S. Navy personnel, Boeing technicians, leading quantum physicists, theoretical cosmologists, metaphysicians, epistemologists, and determinist philosophers to help scour all conceivable and as yet inconceivable locations in which the plane might be located.
    “The bottom line is that we have a sophisticated aircraft fresh off a safety inspection with no prior incident of malfunction, flying in good weather at a cruising altitude,” Rahman continued. “Why didn’t the pilot send a distress signal? Why aren’t we finding a debris path? What are we to make of the contradictory radar information? Where did the universe begin and can it be said to have a limit or an edge? What is mankind’s role in it? Is there a God? If so, what is God’s nature?”
    “It’s too early to answer these questions right now, but I can assure you that Malaysia Airlines will get to the bottom of it,” Rahman added. “Our top people are on it right now.”

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    Hahahaha, LOVE the Onion.
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