Patch#10 Beta, LoD & terraforming game

[Ganossa]

I want to showcase the new LOD-Level of Detail introduced and hope some of you can post this in the official forum too.
Brought to attention as patch#10beta feedback by Mr.Freud::http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...=1#post1078387
Brought to attention in patch testing by Noif::http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...-10-LOD-Issue?
Brought to attention in patch testing by Spec74::http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/123637-CA-please-STOP-reducing-the-level-of-detail-on-extreme-graphics-settings.?

The issue is persistent even after patch 10 though we know that the Devs took notice::http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/77520-The-major-issue-of-Rome-II-The-quot-LOD-quot

Video Example & Commentary by alQamar:


LoD issues starting in previous patch (though maybe not that prominent) brough to attention by alQamar::http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-ins-in-Rome-2

After my first shock I decided to install patch#10 beta again and noticed (besides no performance increase) that the world is in constant change now.
Moving around the map will have constant and very intense popups of detail which brings the immersion and feeling for the game to a new low.

There could be easly many example but I will only show two very similar here.
NOTE that these changes happen even when moving only slightly which you can see from my camera angle.
NOTE 2 that I have everything maxed out ingame. (I might be allright with that LoD behavior on lower settings)

Video Example by baptistus:


Example 1: (take a look at the roof of the building in the center)




Example 2: (take a look at the wall of the building in the center)




I am sure there is an easy fix for this that could !make LoD adjustable in the settings! so please lets bring that to CA's attention as its nothing that we wouldn't see.

[keldor]

Maybe its just one guy doing patches. And they dont let him leave the desk at all. So at patch 10 he's sweating bullets and nothing is on his mind other than dropping the kids of at the pool.

[GRANTO]

yeah i noticed it looked terrible today.

[baptistus]

I made a short video to help you (settings: extrem, 1920x1080, gtx 760 i7 3930k)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olMg1...ature=youtu.be

[stevehoos]

I made a short video to help you (settings: extrem, 1920x1080, gtx 760 i7 3930k)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olMg1...ature=youtu.be

Wow that's horrendous, I did not realize it was that bad, I have not had a chance to test beta 10 yet, that LOD change is sore thumb noticeable. If CA had prepped this game like they were supposed to, they would not be fixing **cough** breaking**cough things like this right now. Let me leave here silently, I don't want to step on any apologist's toes.

[IVIX1]

This whole CA fixing/patching/fixes is starting to seem out of control.

Its "snowballing" and going from bad to worse....consistently(?)(in regards to CA's efforts and lack of progress of late). If graphics are one of the only intersting aspects or improvments of the game and they keep downgrading them what's next I wonder?

[Mr.Freud]

Voted
reducing LOD is the only way they can

optimize

the game and

reduce CPU bottleneck

. Since patch 1 reducing LOD has been the major and first thing to do

to increase performance

.
But of course, giving us an option to increase LOD would be niсe. It would make our CPUs burn(those settings are CPU dependent), but at least we would be able to make screenshots of great quality(same as the ones they had used in their pre-release false-advertising campaign)

[Noif de Bodemloze]

Oh no! What they've done. I don't wish that they downgraded more in LOD area to get more performance.

[stevehoos]

Speaking of things looking bad: the pikes look like swarms of eyebrows from distance, the worst looking game graphic on my PC.

Oh no! What they've done. I don't wish that they downgraded more in LOD area to get more performance.

Crap, I need to sleep, miss read another post.

[Ganossa]

I made a short video to help you (settings: extrem, 1920x1080, gtx 760 i7 3930k)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olMg1...ature=youtu.be

Thanks for the video! It looks so bad I do not know how they can think you wouldnt notice. It is much more prominent than watching your units fight and lets you think about why the world is constantly changing around you.

Looking at the votes I guess everyone likes to have the option to decrease the LoD effect. I am sure I can easly run that on my system. (if they just would let me)

[❋ Flavius Belisarius ❋]

I made a short video to help you (settings: extrem, 1920x1080, gtx 760 i7 3930k)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olMg1...ature=youtu.be

OMG, didn't play since last week, this is a disaster

[Ganossa]

OMG, didn't play since last week, this is a disaster

Just wait until you see how the sea is constantly changing its level of detail too .... as if that would be of any relevance .... you scroll over some flat texture and it jumps up and down.

[Noif de Bodemloze]

Thanks for the video! It looks so bad I do not know how they can think you wouldnt notice. It is much more prominent than watching your units fight and lets you think about why the world is constantly changing around you.

Looking at the votes I guess everyone likes to have the option to decrease the LoD effect. I am sure I can easly run that on my system. (if they just would let me)

I already made a thread to CA about this LOD and linked to your threads. (I am pretty sure that someone might be reported this earlier, but just incase).

But... watching units fighting yeah, but it is very awful to see building changing when moving your camera around units fighting. That isn't nice at all.

[Mr.Freud]

I made a post about LOD here http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...86#post1078086

[Ganossa]

I already made a thread to CA about this LOD and linked to your threads. (I am pretty sure that someone might be reported this earlier, but just incase).

But... watching units fighting yeah, but it is very awful to see building changing when moving your camera around units fighting. That isn't nice at all.

I made a post about LOD here http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...86#post1078086

Thanks guys, the more the merrier.
- besides I am sure it cannot be that hard to implement an option to decrease/disable LoD. They did the opposite since the game launched with ease already.

[Mr.Freud]

Thanks guys, the more the merrier.
- besides I am sure it cannot be that hard to implement an option to decrease/disable LoD. They did the opposite since the game launched with ease already.

We should go loud about the problem all over the internets. We should make just as much noise as we made about the DLC situation.

I, personally, have already accepted the fact that nothing left to be done in terms of performance optimizations (propper SLI and Crossfire profiles are the only things they can do for us) - I've been trying hard to enjoy the game, with all of it's flaws(many of which are "unfixable" or are "design decisions") at 20-30 fps. But now they take away image quality? What's next? 2d sprites like in original Medieval? no way.

[johnny_b_good]

So this is performance patch all about!!! Shame

[Musteline]

why they have to make the game uglier than its already is, i imagine how horrible it must look at high settings
,its already ugly enough.

[Hetairos]

guys have you tried the LOD shame on the campaign map on medium settings max zoom in to the ground? fly around a little bit and OMG mountains cities and basically everything magically disappearing

[Sagat]

you should make an actual thread over on those Forums there, not just a post that will get buried, this is a major slap in our face, must think we're 10 year old kids if they think they can get away with this