[Submod] Age of Petty Kings - Poll on Page 39

[Badger-dude]

[AdmiralThrawn]

Umm, interesting? I think your post was deleted...

[HannibalExMachina]

Umm, interesting? I think your post was deleted...

i ifxed badgers post, but westeros.org is acting up. id recommend to get another version of the CoA.

[Riverknight]

This looks great.

Cannot wait to conquer the Riverlands with my most beloved House Mudd.

[Ice Eyes]

First of all this mod looks great However I was wondering if you were to be able to implement a script or some sort where if you take 50% of a factions lands or siege their Capital, a script comes up with that faction bending the knee to their besieger? This will make the faction bend the knee and flock to your banner. E.g Say I play Arryn and I besiege Runestone, the script comes up and says 'The Ruler of House Runestone wishes to Bend the knee' You either get a chance to say yes or no and if you say yes his lands, generals and armies became yours.

However saying this I am not that good at modding and is clearly a suggestion. What do you think?

[AdmiralThrawn]

First of all this mod looks great However I was wondering if you were to be able to implement a script or some sort where if you take 50% of a factions lands or siege their Capital, a script comes up with that faction bending the knee to their besieger? This will make the faction bend the knee and flock to your banner. E.g Say I play Arryn and I besiege Runestone, the script comes up and says 'The Ruler of House Runestone wishes to Bend the knee' You either get a chance to say yes or no and if you say yes his lands, generals and armies became yours.

However saying this I am not that good at modding and is clearly a suggestion. What do you think?

I have thought about that, and it would be really cool, but I'm not quite sure how to implement it. If it is reasonably doable then I'll definetly give it a try! That being said, there are a ton of factions, so if it is nasty it might have to wait for 2.0.

[Axis Sunsoar]

I have thought about that, and it would be really cool, but I'm not quite sure how to implement it. If it is reasonably doable then I'll definetly give it a try! That being said, there are a ton of factions, so if it is nasty it might have to wait for 2.0.

Maybe just implement it for major rival factions if you figure it out but it is a lot of work (for example Hightower and gardener, Royce and Arryn, Stark and Bolton)

[Ice Eyes]

Maybe just implement it for major rival factions if you figure it out but it is a lot of work (for example Hightower and gardener, Royce and Arryn, Stark and Bolton)

Or only allow the main factions (Stark, Arryn, lanny, gardener, Stormkings, martell) to get the script when they besiege their enemy's capitals.

[Korpskog]

About scripting so that factions bend the knee/looses their lands you have the Kalmar Union script from the Teutonic campaign. This is how it looks from the begining, im not sure about all these components but I tried to modify it for Winds of Winter without succes. I marked the line that gives everything from one faction to another.

Not my specialty so if you have questions you should ask Stannis The Mannis or Kilic Ali who knows about that stuff

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

;------------------- KALMAR UNION FORMATION -------------------;
    
    ;Notify the player early in the game about to possibility to form the kalmar union
    monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType denmark
        and I_TurnNumber = 8
        
        historic_event kalmar_notification factions { denmark, } 
        
        terminate_monitor
        
    end_monitor
    
    monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType denmark
        and I_TurnNumber > 8
        and I_NumberOfSettlements norway > 0
    
        if I_SettlementOwner Kalmar denmark
            and I_SettlementOwner Goteborg denmark
            and I_SettlementOwner Uppsala denmark
            and I_SettlementOwner Visby denmark
            and I_SettlementOwner Abo denmark
            
                historic_event kalmar_stage2 factions { denmark, }
            
                terminate_monitor        
                    
        end_if
    
    end_monitor
    
    monitor_event BecomesFactionLeader FactionType norway
        and I_TurnNumber > 9
        
        if I_SettlementOwner Kalmar denmark
            and I_SettlementOwner Goteborg denmark
            and I_SettlementOwner Uppsala denmark
            and I_SettlementOwner Visby denmark
            and I_SettlementOwner Abo denmark
                
                historic_event kalmar_question true factions { denmark, }
                            
                if I_IsFactionAIControlled denmark
                    set_event_counter kalmar_question_accepted 1
                end_if
                
                terminate_monitor
        end_if
        
    end_monitor
    
    monitor_conditions I_EventCounter kalmar_question_accepted = 1
        
        ;apply kalmar union faction banner to denmark
        set_faction_banner
            faction denmark
            banner kalmar_union
        end_set_faction_banner
        
        ;turn over norways assets to denmark
        give_everything_to_faction norway denmark false
        
        historic_event denmark_joins_kalmar event/Kalmar_union.bik


        terminate_monitor
    
    end_monitor

[irishviking5]

Amazing Mod Thrawn, always love your work haha keep it up

[AdmiralThrawn]

I actually had an idea... I am deleting the entire EDU and building all of the rosters from scratch, so what if I made every generic unit AOR? Then I made them available to all factions (as "mercenary_units", so no Silver surfers). That way, you could never recruit your own levies outside your homelands, but if you made, say, the Blackwoods bend the knee then you could recruit their spear levies in their territories instead? This could make things interesting as if differentiates the different lordly armies rather than just making them one big jumble. Any thoughts?

[Iron Aquilifer]

As to the bending of the knee, if it were simply give_everything_to_faction then I would make it when a) capital falls, or b) they have lost a vital territory or large parts of their homeland.
( with a number of settlements condition so you aren't forcing a vast power to surrender. And of course it would be yes/no for those who HS on their own/same computer without console disabled

Isn't there a relatively small number of units you can have? After 29 entries of the same unit........your not going to have much space left. And that is just the generics.
EDIT: double checked 500

(I will post this calculation more for y benefit than anyone else's)
If each faction has say 12 units, of which 8 are generic:
29x8 = 244....
Of those 4 non generics, 2 are available to everyone:
29x2 = 58
The other two are either one faction sole or culture specific (for ease):
(2x29) + 10 = 68

And then for these religion-changing factions (Hoare) you would need (it would be preferable) to create new units to represent their change:
10 x 3 = 30

Mercenaries would be realistically quite small (both for gameplay and for time restraints)
So say three(?) units for Northern culture, 3 for Ironborn, 3 for Mountain Clansmen, 4 for Dornish, 4 for southerners

(Would be: archer...spearmen...pikemen...cavalry...)
17

And don't forget ships! Personally, I would have Dragonboats, Longships, longboats for Ironborn
War galleys, galleys, dromonds, cogs, sailers,
7

244 + 58 + 68 + 30 + 17 + 7
: again this is just a guess as I have no clue as to the rosters

[AdmiralThrawn]

Pretty mich what i was thinking. It still falls well below 500, so I might give this a try. Plus I think it would be cool to have your new territories produ e their own distinct troops for you, rather than stark levoes being raised in the Westerlands.

[IBSXYPNTS]

Pretty mich what i was thinking. It still falls well below 500, so I might give this a try. Plus I think it would be cool to have your new territories produ e their own distinct troops for you, rather than stark levoes being raised in the Westerlands.

Perhaps they could each have slightly different stats to make it more interesting, the Northern Levies for example could be better in snow and forest (Hidden traits but make a difference) and the levies from Dorne could be better in Heat or some such thing. Perhaps the units from the Stormlands have better armor than those from the Vale (By 1 point) for example?

[AdmiralThrawn]

Perhaps they could each have slightly different stats to make it more interesting, the Northern Levies for example could be better in snow and forest (Hidden traits but make a difference) and the levies from Dorne could be better in Heat or some such thing. Perhaps the units from the Stormlands have better armor than those from the Vale (By 1 point) for example?

That;s pretty much what I was thinking... It might take awhile, but I think it'll be worth it.

[Wachin]

this mod isn't finished yet right...when do you think it will be release??

[Korpskog]

It is not finished yes! I think we might see some new progress once Admiral is done with his finals (whatever that is, we don't have em in Sweden)

[AdmiralThrawn]

It is not finished yes! I think we might see some new progress once Admiral is done with his finals (whatever that is, we don't have em in Sweden)

You are so lucky! Finals are when we have MASSIVE tests that are worth like 40% of your class grade. The week before is called "Hell Week"... I just finished though, so time to start on making the 29 separate rosters...

[Wachin]

oh ok thanks, 'cause I'm really waiting to play this mod

[Korpskog]

We have something simular but in general we do not believe in academic presure! Also dropping out of collage helps if you don't want to waste your time cracking books and earn some money instead..