How to understand the battle odds?

[Tordenskjold]

I know I should have known this playing RTW mods for years. But is the odds stated in the battlescreen included my general's abilities or just odds based on manpower (troop types and numbers)?

[High Fist]

Troop stats is all I think.

[Tordenskjold]

Troop stats is all I think.

So that mean that the odds do not consider the general and thus give a false impression of your chances in battle?

[Darth Bane1]

Definitely. One unit can beat thousands of enemies without losing one man... But only if you know the right numbers to mod...

[High Fist]

Hm. Now that you say it, I think the general's command stars do actually count, in some arbitrary way. Yeah they must, I remember auto resolving a bunch of battles with my Polybian stacks when I hit the reforms, thinking that they'd die much faster. Ended up securing all of Greece and Thrace with them and a few high star generals.

[Tordenskjold]

After several more hours I also think that army reserves (another stack) are not part of battle odds calculation. Based on Chartage's campain in Spain during 70 game years. Not sure about the general either put hope you are right. Great if a modder could enlighten us...

[sadlogic]

i assume you mean reinforcements by army reserves? If so, you are wrong. It's very easy to see that reinforcements are considered in the battle odds calculation: if only one army has reinforcements you can switch between normal and night battle, therefore in- or exclude the reinforcements, and see the immediately changing battle odds

[century x]

Isn't the battle odds calculations broken?
I remember someone saying it is broken...

[romanius24]

So is autoresolve.
Or am i the only one who loses ~2000 men against ~300 Romans?

[neep]

So is autoresolve.
Or am i the only one who loses ~2000 men against ~300 Romans?

That sounds about right

Roma Victor !

[sadlogic]

Some stats are being overly highly valued by the system, that's why the romans make it work for them pretty good in RSII

[romanius24]

I assume that would be armor?
The Romans seem to have plenty.