China is planning to make VJ Day as national holiday

[hellheaven1987]

We all know it is aiming on who.

China is considering two new national holidays to mark the war against Japan in the 1930s and 40s, amid rising anti-Japanese sentiment.

The plan, now submitted to parliament, is to mark the formal surrender of Japan in 1945 and the anniversary of the Nanjing massacre in 1937.

China says some 300,000 civilians were massacred in the city after its occupation by Japanese troops.

Japanese nationalists dispute the Chinese version.

Nationalist sentiment has been rising in China, fanned by a dispute with Japan over uninhabited islands in the East China Sea.

According to the draft laws now before the National People's Congress, 3 September would be "Victory Day of the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression", the official Xinhua news agency said.

In addition, 13 December would be a "national memorial day to commemorate those killed by Japanese aggressors during the Nanjing massacre", Xinhua reported.

Japanese forces invaded and occupied Manchuria in northern China in 1931.

A wider war between the two countries began in 1937 and ended with Japan's surrender in August 1945, days after the US dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Ties between China and Japan have recently been strained by the territorial row over a group of islands, known as the Senkaku islands in Japan and the Diaoyu islands in China.

The islands - controlled by Japan - are close to important shipping lanes, offer rich fishing grounds and lie near potential oil and gas reserves.

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I don't know, why West Europe did not make VE Day as national holiday yet? But be honest, if China has time to play those nonsenses, why not pick a national holiday to remember Cultural Revolution or try to apologize all the mess they had done to all its neighbors during Cold War?

And of course I am still waiting an apology from CCP for what they had done to my family in mainland during Cultural Revolution.

[Durnaug]

We all know it is aiming on who.



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I don't know, why West Europe did not make VE Day as national holiday yet? But be honest, if China has time to play those nonsenses, why not pick a national holiday to remember Cultural Revolution or try to apologize all the mess they had done to all its neighbors during Cold War?

And of course I am still waiting an apology from CCP for what they had done to my family in mainland during Cultural Revolution.

Imagine if the Communists had lost the Civil War? I know the Nationalists were accused of corruption but China and the world would have been in a far better place.

[hellheaven1987]

Imagine if the Communists had lost the Civil War? I know the Nationalists were accused of corruption but China and the world would have been a far better place.

That is implying Communists were not corrupted.

But even if Nationalist won and China did become free and democratic, the situation of world would just change from Sparta vs Athens to Thebes vs Athens - in other words, US would just jump out and claims how Chinese "does democracy in wrong way, which is heresy" and the competition proceeds as usual.

Or why you think Christians of different sects try to beat each others for one thousands years?

[Durnaug]

That is implying Communists were not corrupted.

Lol. No. It's being realistic and suggesting the Nationalists were not perfect. Yet it clearly prefers a Nationalist victory.

[EDIT: Of course the US would stick its nose into a Nationalist China's business. Par for the course for Empires. But rather that than Mao]

[hellheaven1987]

Yet it clearly prefers a Nationalist victory.

On the other hands without the defeat of Nationalist Marshall Plan probably would not pass, so West Europe would just remain in a sad status today.

[Durnaug]

On the other hands without the defeat of Nationalist Marshall Plan probably would not pass, so West Europe would just remain in a sad status today.

Imagine if the Soviets had agreed to participate in the Marshall plan? But why does the defeat of the Nationalists trigger the Marshall Plan? OIC it probably emboldened the US congress to help the Europeans?

[EDIT: The US behaved far better, in public at least, when there was a rival on the block. Now it seems they just behave like an .]

[ShockBlast]

On the other hands without the defeat of Nationalist Marshall Plan probably would not pass, so West Europe would just remain in a sad status today.

Are you trying to imply that the Marshall Plan was the main motor for Western Europe`s economic recovery? What are you smoking, I want to try it.

[Babur]

That is implying Communists were not corrupted.

But even if Nationalist won and China did become free and democratic, the situation of world would just change from Sparta vs Athens to Thebes vs Athens - in other words, US would just jump out and claims how Chinese "does democracy in wrong way, which is heresy" and the competition proceeds as usual.

Or why you think Christians of different sects try to beat each others for one thousands years?

Weren't the CCP considered a bigger threat than Japan by the KMT?

[hellheaven1987]

Weren't the CCP considered a bigger threat than Japan by the KMT?

Nope, not during Second Sino-Japanese War.

[Condottiere 40K]

That will solidify the position of the Japanese nationalists as an electable faction.

[Mangalore]

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I don't know, why West Europe did not make VE Day as national holiday yet? ...

There are still Germans left you know. Getting curb stomped does not elicit feelings of victory to us however much our ancestors apparently deserved it.

edit: Most of eastern Europe doesn't see that day as much of a victory either. To the 1990 is a more important date.

[Elemental]

This is probably in response to Abe's ww2 trip

[hellheaven1987]

This is probably in response to Abe's ww2 trip

It is, but what Chinese do not realize is China is not on a moral high ground too; last month Global Times (CCP's mouthpiece) accused SEA states why they did not join China to criticize Abe's action, and I was thinking "ha, why people want to join the fight between two rotten apples". The sad reality was that Chinese is as ignorant as Japanese, have little ideas why their neighbors distrust them after what they had done to their neighbors during Cold War.

In the end, China was the one that launched two aggressive wars against its neighbors during 70 years after WWII, not Japan; but of course Chinese conditionally forget what all the mess they did to others while remember only what mess others did to them.

[Phier]

This war is not as in the past; whoever occupies a territory also imposes on it his own social system. Everyone imposes his own system as far as his army can reach. It cannot be otherwise. If now there is not a communist government in Paris, this is only because Russia has no an army which can reach Paris in 1945. Said in April, 1945, as quoted in Conversations with Stalin (1963) by Milovan Djilas

[Sir Adrian]

This is certain to rustle some jimmies in the region.

[Aymer de Valence]

Good for them. If the Japanese are allowed to show respect to their war criminals; men who made the Nazis look like pink fluffy kittens, then China can damn well celebrate the part they played in defeating these idiots.

[Phier]

Good for them. If the Japanese are allowed to show respect to their war criminals; men who made the Nazis look like pink fluffy kittens, then China can damn well celebrate the part they played in defeating these idiots.

Japan had their share of horrible war criminals, but no, they don't make the Nazi's look good by comparison, not even close.

[Aanker]

Japan had their share of horrible war criminals, but no, they don't make the Nazi's look good by comparison, not even close.

I don't think the Japanese treatment of the Chinese, especially at Unit 731, ever matched the industrial scale of the Holocaust, but the cruelty displayed by their personnel at such sites reached a quality all of its own.

[Aymer de Valence]

I don't think the Japanese treatment of the Chinese, especially at Unit 731, ever matched the industrial scale of the Holocaust, but the cruelty displayed by their personnel at such sites reached a quality all of its own.

You know your military is barbaric when even the Nazis condemn the atrocities, as they did after the Rape of Nanking. The Nazis were bad, but the Japanese were something else altogether, and they well-deservingly paid for it in August 1945.

[caratacus]

You know your military is barbaric when even the Nazis condemn the atrocities, as they did after the Rape of Nanking. The Nazis were bad, but the Japanese were something else altogether, and they well-deservingly paid for it in August 1945.

By that I think you mean the dropping of the Atom bombs. In Nagasaki 90,000–166,000 people were killed, in Hiroshima 60,000–80,000 largely civilians. You can argue whether the dropping of these bombs on these cities was really necessary to end the war. But even if it was, the killing of civilians, especially in such large numbers is nothing to take glee from or celebrate. War is a dirty business, some times it needs to be done and cannot be avoided but it should never be celebrated. Killing someone for the misdeeds of another cannot be described as justice, even if it serves to prevent more killing.