Paving the Way for M2TW:Final Thoughts on Rome

[Necromancer]

Hey Everybody!!! Necromancer here,

I just figured that I should start up this particular thread before somebody else does!

As Rome slows to a halt and we all move on to the next chapter in the Total War series, I believe that we'll all be leaving a little something behind that we'll all miss... everyone has memories from Rome that may be irreplaceable in M2TW (Sounds crazy, I know :hmmm: )

These memories could be great victories - victories where your best general may have sacrificed himself for his men, victories where you beat seemingly insurmountable odds, victories where the fate of your empire's existence depended on your final force to carry the day, to stand their ground, to die for your empire's people...

These memories could also be terrible defeats - defeats where your best army may have not been good enough to defeat the enemy's army (SPQR - Pre-marian Rome vs. Gaul anyone?)
Defeats where your men, knowing that they will all die - die as a band of brothers, make one last desperate charge to hold off the enemy long enough for your next army -superior to the enemy's- to meet them and deal the final blow (these types of defeats are kind of romantic in their own way, I guess...)

Or possibly a memory as small as something on the campaign map - a memory where you sway a diplomat/family member etc. to see things your way even when you've laid down absolutely ridiculous terms for them to agree to, maybe a family member received a trait/ retinue expansion that you've never seen before... it goes on

Maybe this significant memory started BEFORE you even started playing Rome - you just bought the game and you ever so S L O W L Y peel back the tape on the top of the box, trying not to rip the top... then you C A R E F U L L Y open the top flap, trying your hardest not to crease part of it while opening it.

There are so many more memories we all have from Rome that we'll NEVER forget, even while in the heat of battle during M2TW. I know that I'll never STOP playing Rome, I'll put that CD in the drive every once in a while, I'm not willing to give up those memories just yet... and I'm sure that the rest of us will do the same...

Here's to you Rome: Total War (everyone follow suit, we've gotta make this mean something)

P.S. - To any mods out there... I figured that I should place this thread here because it has at least a LITTLE bit to do with M2TW, and I also figured that there would be a heck of a lot more people on the M2TW forum than on the Rome forum... however if you insist on moving this thread to the Rome forum, so be it.
Thank you

[Pre]

Here here.

I'll always remember getting a Greek 16 year old general with 5 command stars and 4 each in management and influence!

I will also remember some of my greatest victories, like 100% percent enemy casualties 5% friendly, my 2000 man vs a 3000.

Rome:TW was a great game, dispite what people may say about historical inaccuracies and the lot. The feeling you get when you see your massive flank pouring into the rear of a huge surrounded enemy phlanax is priceless.

Hopefully M2TW will continue the great fun I've had. Can't wait for the full game and kill some limey's with me scot's!

[U.A.T]

To you Rome, It will be hard to forget you.
Frankly, i have lots of good memories of Rome Total War, one of them is cheating by placing my army on the corner of the map.
But i do remember other things, that huge battle i had with the macedons. I had to retreat, the battle seemed like going to continue forever. My army was tired and being slaughtered. Result; many men fled the battlefield for losing their faith in the general's skills.
I still had lots of re-enforcements, so... It lasted for a good while before i "left the stage", so to say.

[AlbinoPickleX]

Hears to you Rome
My most fond memory was when I was finally able to download a mod. After trying many times again, I couldnt install that Rome Total Realism. But I finally understood the whole concept after weeks of studying the game. And then I played it for the whole. After that I was hooked, I ha to try every mod out. And Ive been playing it for almost a year now.

*Sigh* Im going to miss you rome total war. And lets all pray that medieval 2 isnt a flop.

[eltrevo]

RTW=
M2TW=

[Bob Roberts]

RTW=
M2TW=

Surely you mean: M2TW= .

[Darsh]

RTW was a great moment with also BI and ATW and my first total war game after I discovered MTW and now the demo of MTW 2...

I think MTW2 will be the grest strategy game of all time.

[SIlver General65]

I hope they make a rome 2 total war like they did in medivel it will bring so much memories!


long live rtw!

[InferiorBeing]

I remember the first time I moved away from the utter mess that was vanilla RTW and downloaded my first mod. (SPQR, perhaps.)

[Asean]

It's not goodbye yet for Rome Total War. Still have 1 more month left....

[The Cypriot]

Well it's about time someone said something.

Ah, so many fond memories...creating massive trade alliances with the Greeks, hiring huge mercenary armies, actually having to learn strategy in an RTS (for once), routing superior enemy forces, sieging, defending, winning, losing, laughing, cursing...what a long strange journey it's been.

Cheers to Rome. Accurate or not, you had it where it counts.

[Shazbot]

To Rome Total War! May your children (the next TWs) bear the same amount of greatness that you posses.

And my memories:

Playing RTW for 6 hours straight
Defeating a 6000 man Egyption army with 2000 romans
Winning my first PotW(D)
Playing Warhammer, SPQR, RTR, Terrae Expungedae and Troy Total War
Doing my first modding of any game
Discovering TWC
The first game I ever bought the day it came out

I actually owe RTW quite a large part of my life, I started out with my digital editing hobby by editing RTW pics. And now I'm seriously considering doing graphic arts for a career...

[Manslaughter the Great]

To Rome indeed.

I still consider it the best TW to come along but it seems M2TW will take that mantle from it.

[Sitarus Originalus PM-30+]

RTW was a huge step foreward for strategy games. i will never forget it and i will still play it even after i get M2TW (from time to time ) =)

[Casanova]

Quite honestly I wont miss Rome a bit. It was the worst of the TW series for me. I played it the least amount of time, and never even cared to pick it up again after I played the first Roman Campaign. I tried many popular mods as well and it just didnt do it for me. I couldnt get over the terrible diplomacy, it really ruined the roleplaying element for me. Anyway I dont want to turn this into a rome bashing thread, I just wanted to give my 2 cents. But I can say after seeing the screens and reading the descriptions of MTW II, I am very optimistic that it will go far beyond just pleasing me.

[SaberHRE]

Quite honestly I wont miss Rome a bit. It was the worst of the TW series for me. I played it the least amount of time, and never even cared to pick it up again after I played the first Roman Campaign. I tried many popular mods as well and it just didnt do it for me. I couldnt get over the terrible diplomacy, it really ruined the roleplaying element for me. Anyway I dont want to turn this into a rome bashing thread, I just wanted to give my 2 cents. But I can say after seeing the screens and reading the descriptions of MTW II, I am very optimistic that it will go far beyond just pleasing me.

The same here. I tried to return to RTW recently but the climate just repulsed me. So i rediscovered my good ole MTW, and i'm butchering an Empire for myself :>

[Neb]

Quite honestly I wont miss Rome a bit. It was the worst of the TW series for me. I played it the least amount of time, and never even cared to pick it up again after I played the first Roman Campaign. I tried many popular mods as well and it just didnt do it for me. I couldnt get over the terrible diplomacy, it really ruined the roleplaying element for me. Anyway I dont want to turn this into a rome bashing thread, I just wanted to give my 2 cents. But I can say after seeing the screens and reading the descriptions of MTW II, I am very optimistic that it will go far beyond just pleasing me.

I agree. I played STW, much longer than Rome.. and MTW much lomger than STW. RTW just had too many flaws for me to forget about. But sure, I might miss it, I guess.

-Neb

[Cadmium77]

I agree. I played STW, much longer than Rome.. and MTW much lomger than STW. RTW just had too many flaws for me to forget about. But sure, I might miss it, I guess.

-Neb

Here's my prediction; I'll be playing Blue Lotus TW, Chivalry Total War, and EB long after I've given up on M2TW because of poor gameplay issues and I won't pick it up again until the modders fix them for M2TW.

[krippp]

My best memories are of my successful tactical innovations in the very rarely occuring situations when they were actually needed.

I'll tell of a battle that included a couple of very-much-needed innovations... very simple (and probably obvious to many, but not to me then), but oh so effective:



Playing as the Greeks, sieging a Roman city in Italy,
with my last remaining stack large enough to be called an army, consisting of three units of ordinary hoplites and several units of various mercenary missile units.
The Romans were coming with a full stack to drive my army away, which meant I had to assault the city or run away, be cornered, and lose my last army in an open-field battle.

Naturally, in an all-or-nothing situation, I chose all, and therefore commenced the assault.

Knowing that I needed as many hoplites as possible to kill the overpowering general's bodyguard at the town square, and that in a fair fight my only expendable troops - the various missile mercenaries - could do nothing against the three units of experienced principes guarding the walls, I had to come up with something special... And I did.

I ordered a single unit of mercenary peltasts up to the walls (naturally first waiting for the ammunition of my two siege towers to run out on the defenders).
To make sure the peltasts would complete the task I was about to give them, I made my general and his unit of hoplites run right below the wall to boost their morale.

When the first wave of peltasts stormed the walls left of the gatehouse, the huge masses of principes began pouring in to aid their comrades in front of the siege tower. But, as a fair fight on the walls was never my intention, I ordered my peltasts to run to the left, away from the gatehouse, right through the principes around them, and into the nearest tower on the wall. With the tower and it's bows in my use, I had one last order to the heroes of the day: hold the ground at all costs! And they did, to the last man, long enough for dozens and dozens of principes to succumb in the constant barrage of arrows.

The rest was routine.


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Then of course there's my saddest memory:

I was playing as the Julii. I had chosen a very promising young general to lead my armies and to conquer the world. He started from Spain, and had already conquered half of it with a ragtag bunch of mercenaries. Then, he conquered one more town, a small one, and mercifully spared it from both extermination as well as enslavement. Then, the town had a riot. Without a battle, without any real warning, the new general was killed in it. A 19-year-old, 10 star general.

Yes, 19 years, 10 command stars.

My self-imposed rules required me to keep on playing without loading... But oh... Never had and never would I get a general like that again. In any of my campaigns.

[KaerMorhen]

Can't say for sure but without Rome there won't be any M2TW I think. I really do like Rome I mean RTR or EB because vanila was just the platform for modders to develop something good and they did. I wish the same for M2TW.