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    Clashes in western Iraq began on 30 December 2013 when Iraqi security forces cleared up a Sunni protest camp in Ramadi. Tribal militias battled against the Iraqi Army. After the Iraqi Army withdrew fromAnbar province to cool the situation on 31 December, militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) occupied parts of the Iraqi cities of Fallujah and Ramadi, in the predominantly Sunni Al Anbar governorate. Following the arrival of ISIL, most tribal militias in Ramadi allied themselves with government forces to counter them.

    Groups involved


    There are several groups comprising the non-ISIS armed opposition. JRTN were also said to be part of the Sunni opposition to the Iraqi government.[12] The Military Council of the Tribal Revolutionaries, the largest of the non-ISIS groups, appears to include a number of groups previously involved in the Iraqi Insurgency including the JRTN, 1920 Revolution Brigade, the Islamic Army in Iraq, the Jaish al-Rashideen, Iraqi Hamas, and the former Mujahideen Shura Council of Abdullah al-Janabi.


    A second group, known as the Anbar Tribes Revolutionary Council is headed by Sheikh Ali Hatem Suleiman. This group, unlike the MCTR, doesn't actively advocate the overthrow of the Iraqi government but instead is limited in ambition to defending Anbar from what it see's as aggression from the Iraqi central government.


    The final group is known as the Army of Pride and Dignity, although the group is distinct from the group of the same name formed by Sheikh Ali Hatem Suleiman following the 2013 Hawija clashes. This group is heavily decentralized, with no clear structure or leadership.

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    Important figures

    Rebels:

    Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim Ali al-Badri (Arabic: ابراهيم عواد ابراهيم علي البدري‎), generally known as Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (أبو بكر البغدادي), and also as Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim Ali al-Badri al-Samarrai, or Dr. Ibrahim, or Abu Dua (أبو دعاء),[2] is the leader of what was formerly known as al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).


    AQI was the Iraqi division of the international Islamist militant organization al-Qaeda. Al-Baghdadi moved to Syria after the beginning of that country's revolution, and in April 2013 announced the merger, with himself still in overall command, of his group with Syria's Jabhat al Nusra, under the name of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.


    Jabhat al-Nusra's leader disputed this merger and appealed to al-Qaeda emir Ayman al-Zawahiri, who ruled against al-Baghdadi.Al-Baghdadi, however, dismissed the ruling and took control of a reported 80% of Jabhat al-Nusra's foreign fighters.[5]


    On 4 October 2011, the US State Department marketed al-Baghdadi as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist while announcing a $10 million reward for information leading to his capture or death.[6] Only al-Zawahiri, chief of the global al-Qaeda organization, merits a larger reward at $25 million.

    Government:

    Nouri Kamil Mohammed Hasan al-Maliki (Arabic: نوري كامل محمد حسن المالكي‎; born 20 June 1950), also known as Jawad al-Maliki (جواد المالكي) or Abu Esraa (أبو إسراء) is the Prime Minister of Iraq and the secretary-general of the Islamic Dawa Party. Al-Maliki and his government succeeded the Iraqi Transitional Government. He is currently in his second term as Prime Minister. His first Cabinet was approved by the National Assembly and sworn in on 20 May 2006; his second Cabinet, in which he also holds the positions of acting Interior Minister, acting Defense Minister, and acting National Security Minister, was approved on 21 December 2010.


    Al-Maliki began his political career as a Shia dissident under Saddam Hussein's dictatorship in the late 1970s and rose to prominence after he fled a death sentence into exile for 24 years. During his time abroad, he became a senior leader of Dawa, coordinated the activities of anti-Saddam guerillas and built relationships with Iranian and Syrian officials whose help he sought in overthrowing Saddam. While having worked closely with United States and coalition forces in Iraq since their departure by the end of 2011, there have been claims that al-Maliki has been trying to gain control over the armed groups in his country as means to consolidate the Prime Minister's power and marginalize Sunni opposition.[1][2]


    People to follow on Twitter reporting about the civil war

    follow at own risk. They post pictures and movies of executions, beheadings and such.

    https://twitter.com/IraqiWitness

    Movies

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    Watch on your own risk. Soldiers getting executed at the end, crying for their live.



    Will be updating this thread regularly


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    The Iraqi government's in a tight spot - they can't make a massive move on Fallujah and Ramadi, as this'd cause destruction and likely rally more Sunni's around anti-government groups, but simultaneously the longer they leave these groups in control of substantial territory the more likely they are to fester and strengthen.

    Iraq's one of these conflicts that has to be solved with, to an extent, political reconciliation. As I understand it the Iraqi government is currently trying to negotiate some kind of truce with more moderate opposition groups (i.e. your Suleiman's/Tribal groups). The problem being that the Iraqi government previously abandoned the Sahwa, so many of these groups are naturally suspicious of current government overtures. To be honest this conflict isn't going to be solved until they revamp, or even remove, deBaathification. Now you're never going to get individuals like say al-Douri to join the political process; they're likely too far gone. But the goal should be to expand the political dialogue - to get different groups resolving their issues through politics, rather than violence. Now this option is unlikely, mostly because its politically unpopular amongst many Iraqi's, but it was the banishment of these groups from the dialogue after the invasion which laid the groundwork for the ensuing insurgency, and as long as Baghdad fails to ignore these groups Iraq will continue to be in conflict.
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    I think it appropriate to unite this with "Syrian Civil War". As time progresses, the two intertwine.
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    At this point, I doubt there are many Sunnis who believe in the beneficence of the Shia regime, so they'll have to make credible promises.
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    Could the Americans be supporting the rebels? Iraqi government is close with Iran after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treize View Post
    Could the Americans be supporting the rebels? Iraqi government is close with Iran after all.
    Yes, because the US is just known to be funding Al-qaeda in Iraq and the ISIL.

    Oh, and inb4 people blame America.... oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    Yes, because the US is just known to be funding Al-qaeda in Iraq and the ISIL.

    Oh, and inb4 people blame America.... oh wait.
    Did it in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Libya, Syrian... Not very surprising to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treize View Post
    Did it in Afghanistan,
    You know even Osama himself denied the US supported Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan during the 1980s? Why support a bunch of foreign Arab fighters when a bunch of Afghans were more than willing to take your money and die for their jihad?

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    Bosnia, Libya, Syrian... Not very surprising to be honest.
    i'm sure you have sources for all of this. Right? Love it see the US support for Al-Qaeda in Libya, Syria, and Bosnia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    You know even Osama himself denied the US supported Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan during the 1980s? Why support a bunch of foreign Arab fighters when a bunch of Afghans were more than willing to take your money and die for their jihad?


    i'm sure you have sources for all of this. Right? Love it see the US support for Al-Qaeda in Libya, Syria, and Bosnia.
    It is quite easy to google - you don't have to appeal for sources. Here's one...

    "Needless to say, Moscow is fully aware that Al Qaeda is an instrument of Western intelligence. And Moscow is also aware that the US is covertly supporting terror groups which threaten the security of the Olympic Games.
    Within the Russian military and intelligence establishment, this is known, documented and discussed behind closed doors. Yet at the same time, it is a “forbidden truth”. It is taboo to talk about it in public or to raise it at the diplomatic level. Washington knows that Moscow knows: “I know you know I know”.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-soc...orists/5367601

    I think "source" is the wrong word. Euphemistically you might call it an opinion or cynically a "conspiracy theory". Of course, whether you trust the so-called source or not is completely up to you but there it is. Personally speaking, I no longer trust the Western narrative about "Al Qaeda" - they always seem to turn up whenever the West needs regime change in a non-complient state. So I am open to new opinions and ideas.

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    This thread should be renamed "The Mess Left in Iraq by the US".

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    B-b-but the poster said "Mission Accomplished". Why isn't Iraq a flourishing first-world democracy now?

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    The funny thing is the USA and Iran are supporting the same side as the rebels pose security threats to both sides.
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