UN acuses Somalian government is sending arms to Al Shabab!!

**hellheaven1987** · February 14, 2014, 10:07 PM

WHAT THE HECK?!

A UN report has warned that "systematic abuses" by Somalia's government have allowed weapons to be diverted to warlords and al Shabab militants.

The report for the UN's sanctions committee calls for the restoration of an arms embargo on Somalia that was relaxed last year.

It said a key advisor to Somalia's president has been involved in planning weapons deliveries to militants.

Somalia's mission to the UN has questioned the report's validity.

The confidential 14-page report was compiled by the UN's Somalia and Eritrea Monitoring Group, a panel of independent experts supervising compliance with the sanctions regime.

It said the group had "identified a number of issues and concerns over current management of weapons and ammunition stockpiles" by Somalia's government.

These, it said, "point to high-level and systematic abuses in weapons and ammunition management and distribution".

The Security Council imposed the embargo on Somalia in 1992 as the country descended into two decades of unrest.

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Someone tell me what the

is this?! I thought Al Shabab and Somalian government are enemies? When did they become buddy of business now? Jesus, it is like Karzai sending arms to Talibans (not unlikely though)!!

So now what? Arm embargo certainly would not solve the issue as past two decades already prove, what else international community can try now? Build a wall around Somalia and prevent Al Shabab coming out?

**Slydessertfox** · February 14, 2014, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by hellheaven1987

Build a wall around Somalia and prevent Al Shabab coming out?

Best plan I've heard so far.

**hellheaven1987** · February 14, 2014, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Slydessertfox

Best plan I've heard so far.

You have better suggestion?

**knight of meh** · February 15, 2014, 04:42 AM

funny thing here is they think somalia has what passes for a government

**Menelik_I** · February 15, 2014, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by knight of meh

funny thing here is they thing somalia has what passes for a government

Spot ON

**hellheaven1987** · February 15, 2014, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by knight of meh

funny thing here is they think somalia has what passes for a government

UN recognize it, so it is a government.

**knight of meh** · February 15, 2014, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by hellheaven1987

UN recognize it, so it is a government.

you know fine rightly that the UN saying they are a government doesn't make them a functioning government .. the reason they are recognised is that the UN can't deal with you unless there is a government/leader the fictionalised somalia is hardly even a state any more never mind a failed one .

the only governments the UN doesn't immediately recognise are politically sensitive ones.. what that number again of all the states in the world only three aren't recognised by the UN

**~~John ''True Grit'' Wayne~~** · February 15, 2014, 12:45 PM

Are these the guys who went into the shopping mall in Kenya and shot the place up.
I can see another Black Hawk Down movie being made about Somalia.The place still has famines and warlords and religious fanatics and Pirates.

**Condottiere 40K** · February 15, 2014, 03:11 PM

So the Somali government has either been infiltrated or has issues with corruption, or both.

Put Bob Geldof in charge.

**TuuSaR** · February 15, 2014, 04:56 PM

War can profit in many ways and directions.

**Caelifer_1991** · February 15, 2014, 07:54 PM

I feel like Ethiopia should just invade (again) and occupy northern Somalia, Ethiopia gets some coastline and northern Somalia gets a working government, win/ win really.

P.S.: Yes I know southern Somalia is the worst part, but frankly why anyone would want that barren wasteland at all I don't know.

**nemgod** · February 17, 2014, 11:13 PM

Or just recognize that Somaliland in the north is an independent state. Then you have less issues and factions to deal with when focusing on the south.

**Armenum** · February 17, 2014, 11:19 PM

Somalia is a black hole and in my view a grave threat for the Western World. We should worry more about Somalia than Afghanistan in my view.

**Tankbustaz** · February 18, 2014, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by hellheaven1987

Jesus, it is like Karzai sending arms to Talibans (not unlikely though)!!

Considering the fact that if the Taliban comes to power, Karzai will be castrated and hung from the nearest lamp post, I really doubt that he will be giving weapons to the Taliban.

**hellheaven1987** · February 19, 2014, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Tankbustaz

Considering the fact that if the Taliban comes to power, Karzai will be castrated and hung from the nearest lamp post, I really doubt that he will be giving weapons to the Taliban.

Right, and Al Shabab would spare Somali president right?

**Condottiere 40K** · February 18, 2014, 12:26 AM

The difference is that Somali neighbours are more pro-Western and reliable, than say, Pakistan.

**Dromikaites** · February 19, 2014, 01:53 AM

It is quite frequent that people working for weak governments not only have their own agendas but can pursue them actively. Even the governments of stable countries get sometimes infiltrated by traitors or spies. Both the Western democracies and the Warsaw Pact countries had moles planted high up in their governments and in their secret services.

The only real difference is those working against stable governments from the inside can't be caught easily in the act, because they need to be very careful about what they are doing since the stable states have a lot of countermeasures in place.

If the governments are weak, the guys working against them can afford to be careless to the point that even the UN experts get wind of their activities.