More Europa Barbarorum-like heavy archers

[eNVee]

Last two updates to Divide et Impera brought us three new heavy archer units. But the shields they have aren't used in actual combat
So, I decided to fix this problem, and at the same time make them more useful for melee flanking, like their Europa Barbarorum predecessors.

Here's some screens:
Bosporan heavy archers shooting

Some time after, they retreat a bit, skirt around the enemy unit, charge at their back and start fighting, utilising sword and shield animations


Pontic and armenian heavy archers should be similar, so no screens for them.

I think new combat stats I gave these units are pretty balanced, but if you have some criticism about them, or anything else in this mod, (or even about my language skills) just say so.

You can download the mod from here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/2l...it_tweaks.pack

[Black9]

Now that is very cool, well done man!

[eNVee]

Well, this doesn't really relates to thread name, but I'll post this here, so I won't create to many threads.

For premier navy power of western Mediterranean, Carthage is quite lacking in actual naval units and not just landlubbers on ships. So, I created trio of marine units for them:

1. Carthaginian Marines
   
   (Also available on tetreres, hexaremes and hepteres)
2. Carthaginian Marine Archers
   
   (Also available on penteres and hepteres)
3. Carthaginian Marine Javelinmen
   
   (Also available on penteres and hepteres)

Their look is inspired by Classical Age mod for R:TW.

You can download this mod here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m0...unit_pack.pack

[Meneros]

Excellent functionality you've added to the heavy archers! This will definitely make it into the main mod.

[leonardusius]

Again, excellent and wellcome submod. Yes, armies of RTW 2 era had heavy archers, troops with more than a bow, with short swords and shields, sometimes (but very rare) with chainmail armours.
Cheers

[DasBananenbrot]

A day after you released this awesome submod it made it into the main mod Congrats

[Tenerife_Boy]

Congrats for the adition to the main mod, this is actually a really good improve and would like to ask if Cretan archers got this animation too

[eNVee]

and would like to ask if Cretan archers got this animation too

They did not. I actually did remember that they've got shield too, after uploading the mod, but when I tried to change their animation, I run into some trouble.
No matter what I would do with them, these changes wouldn't be applied ingame at all, so I decided to just forget about them.
Well, I guess now that this submod got rolled into the main one, it would be simple for Selea to assign them appropriate animation.

[wrcromartie]

Excellent work!

[Tenerife_Boy]

Thanks for the answer eNVee, kind of hard to believe it as it is the same mechanic. Bowmen with shield on the back :S so dunno what diferences could be between those 2 units. Well, I was wondering sometime ago, hey, cretan archers actually carry their shields not in the back but in the bow arm (left) wouldn't be a posibility to achive this? so if they get skirmished they could cover with the shield (more likely the rodhian slingers).

Cheers mate
+rep

[Hadrien Ier]

Well done!

[eNVee]

Added another two units to Carthage

1. Libyan Spearmen

Available in muster field and holosideros barracks line after researching Mercenaries tech in Military Management.

2. Libyan Heavy Spearmen


Available in holosideros barracks line after researching Sidonian Rites in Military Management.

Both units function similar to hellenistic Thureophoroi.

You can download the mod from here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m0...unit_pack.pack

[Tenerife_Boy]

I'm a bit confused right now bud, isn't supose your mod to be included in DeI updates?

[eNVee]

I'm a bit confused right now bud, isn't supose your mod to be included in DeI updates?

Well, the one with shield-using archers is included, I just made another one with carthaginian units and didn't want to create another thread for it. Don't want to make to make too many different threads, you see.
It would be much simpler if I could edit my messages before making 25 posts. (By the way, thank you for giving me a reason for another post )

And, 'cause we started talking about this stuff, can one of the moderators rename this thread to "eNVee's Mod Corner" or something like that?

[Tenerife_Boy]

hahahaha kind of funny there,
Ok, but I think for the future you should state in main post(first one) wich of your additions will be included in DeI and wich ones the users would need to come here and download as extra content

Cheers !!!